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Artur Janc

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Making the web platform more secure one Twitter flamewar at a time.

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    1. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @slekies @mikispag and

      the efforts for adopting CSP are large. To be useful benefits must outweigh costs.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Michele Spagnuolo‏Verified account @mikispag 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @slekies @asanso and

      At Google, it is increasingly becoming trivial to adopt 'strict-dynamic'-based CSP.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @mikispag @asanso and

      web > Google

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Michele Spagnuolo‏Verified account @mikispag 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @slekies @asanso and

      With 'strict-dynamic' we significantly lowered the effort needed to deploy it anywhere.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @mikispag @asanso and

      I agree, but effort is still significant, e.g event handlers, caching, etc.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Michele Spagnuolo‏Verified account @mikispag 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @slekies @asanso and

      Nobody spent time automating such refactorings... Just saying, it got better.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @mikispag @asanso and

      there are many papers, tools and project on automating CSP adoption.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @slekies @mikispag and

      but most of them do not work properly.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @slekies @mikispag and

      CSP is facing adoption and security problems and I don't see how they can be fixed.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @slekies @mikispag and

      maybe they can be fixed, but I am quite sceptic and many others are sceptic as well.

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      Artur Janc‏ @arturjanc 1 Jan 2017
      Replying to @slekies @mikispag @sirdarckcat

      An instant way for them to gain credibility is to design & deploy a web platform mechanism that works better

      11:11 AM - 1 Jan 2017
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        2. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
          Replying to @arturjanc @mikispag @sirdarckcat

          Feedback should be valued from everyone. Not everyone can be in the business of designing browsers.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Artur Janc‏ @arturjanc 1 Jan 2017
          Replying to @slekies @mikispag @sirdarckcat

          Feedback about the impossibilty of solving a problem is valuable mostly if someone solved similar problems.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
          Replying to @arturjanc @mikispag @sirdarckcat

          some of them are the world's best Web hackers. I think they have credibility.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Artur Janc‏ @arturjanc 1 Jan 2017
          Replying to @slekies @mikispag @sirdarckcat

          Credibilty in breaking != credibility in building. Many of the recent "unfixable" problems are easily fixed.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
          Replying to @arturjanc @mikispag @sirdarckcat

          I don't think that this will be easy, but I probably don't have the credibility.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Sebastian Lekies‏ @slekies 1 Jan 2017
          Replying to @slekies @arturjanc and

          breaking is easier than fixing. But you should not just ignore the feedback.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Artur Janc‏ @arturjanc 1 Jan 2017
          Replying to @slekies @mikispag @sirdarckcat

          Well, feedback like "CSP sucks" isn't easy to take seriously. I'd much rather have technical discussions ;)

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Artur Janc‏ @arturjanc 1 Jan 2017
          Replying to @arturjanc @slekies and

          FWIW all the technical aspects of the recent bypasses are super cool and no-one will ignore these.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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