Mark, the oldest extant Gospel and the closest to the original Q text, starts with Jesus meeting John the Baptist and becoming his successor
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Jesus' backstory with the Nativity and whatnot was clearly added later and was added for the purpose of arguing he fulfilled prophecy
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And the two given backstories contradict each other -- the modern Nativity is literally just stitching one after the other to make one story
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"FIRST the thing with the stable and no room at the inn happened, THEN the thing with the Magi and Slaughter of the Innocents"
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"Why Matthew would only mention one and Luke the other is a mystery given they both happened at the same time and were very dramatic"
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And in all of the original Q text material the Bethlehem origin is never mentioned and Jesus is consistently said to be from Nazereth
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Just like Luke spices up the canon by giving us John the Baptist's origin and saying he was Jesus' cousin the whole time
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When no other mention of John mentions this and it in fact undermines the drama of his first meeting with Jesus if he already knows him
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Makes it seem less like a divine epiphany and more like nepotism
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Fwiw the John the Baptist thing is one of the parts that rings true like it probably really happened
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That John and Jesus had some kind of connection and Jesus' ministry started when John threw his support and followers behind him
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Despite their evidently very different styles
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