I just feel like it's possible to make the point Iliza made about overused tropes without aiming your punches downwards at novice comics
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Maria Bamford had an amazing bit in her set "I apologize, many of you just saw a lady comedian was performing and expected this"
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And jumped into a hilarious devastating impression of tropey "MY FELLOW LADIES" hacky comedy
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But it didn't feel mean in the same way because the joke was clearly "Here audience I'm giving you what you want"
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Like ok jumping back into my own lane -- I get annoyed with Asian-Americans who milk "My parents' accent" bits for humor
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And I'm a hypocrite bc yes I've done it, and I laughed a lot when Margaret Cho did it, and it's not like it doesn't come from a real place
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But it's that "God don't just keep feeding the mainstream majority-white audience what they want" feeling
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But I think the better questions to ask are "Why do audiences want this" and "How do they signal that demand to new inexperienced comics"
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All performers want validation. Stand-up most of all -- telling jokes to a silent crowd is called "dying" bc it literally feels like dying
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And it's amplified thousands of times when you're a member of a group that's not "supposed" to be on stage
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Like, ok, full disclosure, I used to be kind of a Whitney Cummings hater, especially back in '11 when the world was her oyster
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And I stand by my opinion that the show Whitney was bad and the more popular show she created 2 Broke Girls was a cancer on sitcoms
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And Whitney Cummings is like the avatar of what Iliza is talking about -- at the time she was the Brand Ambassador for Vagina Humor
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