I thought the show was (again: v. male-centrically) more challenging us to interrogate the complicity of Nice Guy surrogate obliviousness.
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Replying to @Hal_Duncan @arthur_affect and
Like, Clay's the male audience surrogate figure, the "how could I possibly be at fault" Nice Guy. His crime is inaction, the privilege of it
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as a woman, Clay's tape was disturbing because it suggested that when a girl you're making out with
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Replying to @anne_theriault @Hal_Duncan and
starts crying, pushing you away and yelling at you to leave, she actually wants you to stay & talk
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See, I read that as being put in precisely to dismiss it, with all the little stuff before that being the actual wrong. Maybe wishful thinkn
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I mean, it can’t be that because him leaving is why he has a tape. He did the “wrong” thing
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But that's Hannah, unreliable narrator, versus Tony, Hand of the Author, who says that was *right* IIRC (which is Problematic Level 2? 3?)
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My issue is she is never shown to be all that unreliable a narrator. Small differences, nothing major. She never lies.
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C.f. Arthur's point re "true" thoughts tho. Having her lie about facts wd go into "false accusation?" shitshow. But distress is unreliable 2
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Even if she's not lying at any point she's still clearly openly leaving things out
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We never at any point find out what happened with her and Skye but it left Skye thinking of her as on the side of the bullies
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I also think it does a great job of showing the claustrophobic/inescapable feeling of high school
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Replying to @anne_theriault @arthur_affect and
that it feels like it's going to be like this for the rest of your life and all adults are useless
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