I meant the cultural referent of "seeing pink elephants" meaning "being drunk"
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cf the weird scene in Dumbo where drinking champagne causes Dumbo to have a full on surreal dream sequence
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it's like poetic references to absinthe - was their stuff more potent than ours or were they just exaggerating
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(like I accept that the withdrawal hallucinations are the most likely explanation)
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but that's not how old writing describes it, they describe it as though alcohol itself is a hallucinogen
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but people tend to exaggerate, esp ppl trying to warn of a drug's dangers
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Li Po's poetry makes wine sound like he's taking ketamine
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not just visions but symptoms like depersonalization, loss of time sense, etc
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Replying to @arthur_affect @sschinke
I mean, you might be able to cause that if you drank in a very systematic way? Remaining on the edge of blackouts?
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @sschinke
Li Po did brag about 1) drinking to the limits of human tolerance and 2) being drunk almost constantly
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I do feel like this is part of how drugs have culturally associated "meanings"
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Li Po would, in modern times, absolutely be classified as a "stoner"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @sschinke
as opposed to, like, a "psychonaut" or a "drunk"?
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