White Wolf made a whole game mechanic around trying to justify what it means for vampires to be "evil versions" of the original
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it's a conceit that, I would argue, taken literally doesn't really work
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Giles' Season 1 speech is clearly an oversimplification that he tells himself to make his job easier
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Yeah I mean I know there's a fan theory that the soul stuff is all bullshit and they're all just mass killers
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it's just so weirdly inconsistent - Angelus and Angel are totally different characters
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whereas Spike regaining his soul just reverts him to his pre-Season 6 behavior
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it actually derailed the writing, I think, the idea that being a true human was inherently valuable
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I mean by season 5 angel, which IMO was the most entertaining, the humans and ensouled vampires were the worst monsters
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The innocents left at the end were basically Lorne (demon), Harmony (soulless, harmless) and Illyria (literally Cthulhu)
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Illyria, there was a wasted chance to explore a character
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she has all of Fred's memories but is not Fred, they didn't fully go into that
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And she's capable of being a more empathic partner to (war criminal) Wesley than Fred ever was, if we're valuing empathy
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I can count on one hand the number of times Angel acts out of legitimate empathy and not performative self loathing too
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