I think because Erik/N'Jadaka (never liked using his alias) is mostly sold in terms of his personal trauma. His methods are never really glamorized very much, but his pain is focused upon as a place of empathy? His tactics certainly aren't why he's loved I think?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @RVCBard and
By contrast Karli just doesn't really work as an emotional portrait because she starts off with sullen brutality and her personal tragedies are entirely divorced from anything we can resonate with? Even her sainted mother figure's mantra is creepy & supremacist.
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I feel like Erik's beef was clearer? it also benefits from an actual meta-ness, his whole thing is "where was Wakanda when I & those like me suffered?" Karli...I still have no idea what she actually wanted cause it changed with the fucking wind
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Yeah like Erik's beef is pointedly tied to a very real, historical injustice and its relation to (and criticism of) the very pan-African ideal Wakanda represents. Karli's lacking in any real ties to historical injustices in the same way. She's not even "a refugee" per se!
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there's also a personal absence to conflict it with? like people connected with Mysterio & Vulture cause they as individuals were wronged by Stark even if as men they're scummy bullshit, Karli doesn't have that at all?
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Hell every character we actually unequivocally like - even Darth Sharon, in her way - gives her SO many chances to back down or pull up out of her tailspin. Not that it was likely to happen, in retrospect.
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I said this elsewhere but she 100% loses a "down to earth" off with John Walker simply from that "I don't want to hurt anyone important" like John mourning the brutal murder of his best friend will always carry more weight than...idk let me live in Eastern Europe?
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Replying to @saintwalker98 @loudpenitent and
speaking of, did we EVER learn Karli's country of origin?
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Generic Vaguely British Foreign.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @saintwalker98 and
Yeah, actor is British and her accent when speaking English is an authentic UK accent a foreigner would be unlikely to acquire But she has a very German name (based on the original comics character)
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The OG character, Karl Morgenthau (the Flag-Smasher), was the son of a Swiss diplomat who spent his childhood jet-setting through Europe and never feeling like any one place was his home
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Replying to @arthur_affect @saintwalker98 and
Which, while totally plausible for a certain sort of radical, also lacks Karli's supposed "downtrodden masses" cred.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
(But is ABSOLUTELY within the mold of a historic sort of leftist idealist, and would also register quite well as a pro-EU type today if you wanted to be a bit more sympathetic...but is still very loaded.)
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