Okay so leaving aside all the philosophical stuff, the GCs in the comments "defending" this article are actually attacking it The article says "If pregnancy were seen as something that affected men, we'd have better obstetric care" The comments are saying the exact oppositehttps://twitter.com/LaborProject/status/1383879008899670028 …
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Like I'm sorry but pick one Would it be good if people came to believe men could get pregnant, or bad? Would that advance reproductive rights or set them back? If you believe the latter, stop writing articles that outright say the former
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This actually does bother me on a fairly deep level I don't think the author of the article is an actual TERF but "If men could..." articles are just fundamentally thoughtless and they would be even if no trans people existed
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If your rhetorical imaginary world is something you've never seriously thought possible and therefore never actually tried to imagine, you shouldn't use it You don't actually mean this is what the world would look like "If men got pregnant" so stop saying it
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Using "If men could get pregnant" as a rhetorical substitute for "If women had power" is exactly the misogyny people piled onto Andrea Long Chu to complain about It's flattening out the gender binary into just "oppressors and oppressed", it's making that the definition
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(Hence all the people pointing out that the specific scenario the article is talking about is probably false Cis men are much more likely to withhold information about their medical problems and avoid medical treatment than cis women, that's one reason they die earlier)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AnaMardoll
And yet, Doctors overwhelmingly dismiss Cis women when they report their symptoms.
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Replying to @2ndlast2rise @arthur_affect
Yep. The patriarchy hurts everyone: it hurts cis women by dismissing their pain, and it hurts cis men by telling them to "toughen up" and not admit to pain.
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Replying to @AnaMardoll @2ndlast2rise
The mechanism the OP article describes for why patriarchy is a thing -- "Men speak up about their problems, women don't!" -- is pretty clearly false, and ironically is the essence of so-called "liberal feminism"
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Like that's the whole thing -- "male privilege" and its corresponding "female oppression" is much more about HOW PEOPLE TREAT YOU than it is how you, yourself, act That's what all of this stuff is about
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But hot-take "What if men..." articles can't really articulate that If you actually unpack it to say "What if people treated people who got pregnant as though they were men?" you run headlong into the "trans issue" you were trying to avoid
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Replying to @arthur_affect @AnaMardoll
It really comes down to what affects lawmakers personally, and those law makers are overwhelmingly white cis men. The answer to solving that isn't "what if men" but rather "what if lawmakers were composed in such a way to truly reflect the diversity of society".
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