And that is entirely irrelevant to observing tha y the Good Life Karli praises was only possible because half of humanity was no longer there needing to be fed, housed, provided for and employed
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
The problem is that you've not made the argument that this was "only possible because of resource availability" and not "only possible because it took this big a shock to get people to be willing to cooperate"
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Replying to @Random832 @Nymphomachy and
Yes, this is why Karli is a Child of Thanos in all but name, as
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
What? I genuinely don't understand your point here. I am arguing that the cooperation *can* and *should* continue even after the returned are brought back. You are arguing that it's genuine resource scarcity, which is closer to a Thanos-was-right than anything I've said.
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Replying to @Random832 @loudpenitent and
The only legitimate argument that Thanos was wrong is to say that reversing the snap *does not* remove the conditions that make cooperation possible, because that is the only way to credit humans rather than Thanos for the cooperation's existence in the first place.
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Replying to @Random832 @loudpenitent and
Yeah it's like when people say women entering the workforce Rosie-the-Riveter-style was only because of World War II, and therefore saying you liked that and wished it could continue is saying you're pro-Hitler
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 and
The problem, of course, is that the show we're watching doesn't make it clear to us exactly how and why the whole situation with Karli and her refugee friends developed and how and why it was reversed Because it's a superhero show and not an alt-history worldbuilding thing
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Sure. Penitent believes it was reversed because there were not enough resources to sustain it. I believe it was reversed because wanting to go "back to normal" is a powerful urge for people not oppressed by the original status quo. They *chose* to stop helping their neighbors.
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Replying to @Random832 @loudpenitent and
Yeah the actual story of "the 1950s" as pop culture understands it -- with this oppressive blast of pro-conformity sexist messaging across all media -- was absolutely "return to normalcy" (which was a term previously coined for the post-WWI recovery)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Random832 and
The '50s housewife thing was *absolutely* seen as essential for bringing the nation "back to normal" and especially reintegrating men who'd come of age in a time of war into peacetime society, an answer to the militarism that had caused the war Lots of stuff written about this
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It definitely adds a lot to the subtext of WandaVision's "metaphor about grief and recovery" when you watch it through this lens
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