That doesn't mean bringing them back means we have to go back to the way the world was before.
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Replying to @Random832 @Nymphomachy and
It does mean that bringing them back involves an end to the situation she saw as the Good Life, because the alternative is either impoverishing the Returned or condemning them ta death. Scarcity exists
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
To be clear are you saying that the alternative to impoverishing or condemning to death the survivors is to do the same to the returned? Because it certainly looks like billionaires still exist.
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Replying to @Random832 @loudpenitent and
Sure but we *know* that the cause of some people not having enough food and housing *pre-snap* is artificial scarcity.
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Replying to @Random832 @Nymphomachy and
And that is entirely irrelevant to observing tha y the Good Life Karli praises was only possible because half of humanity was no longer there needing to be fed, housed, provided for and employed
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
The problem is that you've not made the argument that this was "only possible because of resource availability" and not "only possible because it took this big a shock to get people to be willing to cooperate"
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Replying to @Random832 @Nymphomachy and
Yes, this is why Karli is a Child of Thanos in all but name, as
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
What? I genuinely don't understand your point here. I am arguing that the cooperation *can* and *should* continue even after the returned are brought back. You are arguing that it's genuine resource scarcity, which is closer to a Thanos-was-right than anything I've said.
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Replying to @Random832 @loudpenitent and
The only legitimate argument that Thanos was wrong is to say that reversing the snap *does not* remove the conditions that make cooperation possible, because that is the only way to credit humans rather than Thanos for the cooperation's existence in the first place.
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Replying to @Random832 @loudpenitent and
Yeah it's like when people say women entering the workforce Rosie-the-Riveter-style was only because of World War II, and therefore saying you liked that and wished it could continue is saying you're pro-Hitler
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The problem, of course, is that the show we're watching doesn't make it clear to us exactly how and why the whole situation with Karli and her refugee friends developed and how and why it was reversed Because it's a superhero show and not an alt-history worldbuilding thing
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Sure. Penitent believes it was reversed because there were not enough resources to sustain it. I believe it was reversed because wanting to go "back to normal" is a powerful urge for people not oppressed by the original status quo. They *chose* to stop helping their neighbors.
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Replying to @Random832 @arthur_affect and
[or, in the case of the returned themselves, never started.]
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