I am very attached to the Hulk as a character and how he embodies Erskine's warning that "What is good becomes great, but what is bad becomes worse" -- only with him both things are the same thing (his boundless fucking rage)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @saintwalker98 and
i have never liked the hulk precisely because i have a very low opinion of rage
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Replying to @perdricof @arthur_affect and
The idea of someone who can't deal with their own baggage and constantly lashes out at others as a result is pretty loathsome to me. Relatedly, MCU Hulk is basically just the "Men will literally ____" meme. Except he eventually went to therapy.
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Replying to @jamari_oneal @perdricof and
I mean, he tried, and the whole Bruce Banner/Hulk split is the result of him attempting to apply certain therapeutic principles that are not always helpful (to put it diplomatically)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jamari_oneal and
I guess this is a controversial thing to say but it is definitely possible to misapply the stuff they tell you in CBT/DBT in a way that amounts to gaslighting yourself out of your anger
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jamari_oneal and
Anyway, even though there's obviously a level on which the Hulk is a childish fantasy about violent temper tantrums and has shitty fans as a result of that, it's not only that Like I don't think the Hulk really works unless you understand being the Hulk as a terrible curse
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jamari_oneal and
That was why everyone fell in love with Mark Ruffalo as Bruce Banner in The Avengers, he really gave you this sense that Eric Bana's kind of constipated performance in Hulk 2003 and Ed Norton's scrappy little punk in Hulk 2008 didn't quite give you, that Bruce hates being angry
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jamari_oneal and
He's a peaceful, gentle guy who just really wants quiet and comfort and kindness and calm, he desperately craves it (I do have to give Whedon credit for this running gag with Tony just constantly trolling and ribbing him and him taking it in stride Very real nerd culture thing)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jamari_oneal and
Jude Doyle talked about how powerful "I'm always angry" was for him when reviewing The Avengers, especially from the POV of someone who's the Angry Feminist/SJW/"Wokescold" Friend all the time, the annoying person who just won't shut up about shit
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jamari_oneal and
I think Avengers was also helped by NOT making Bruce's whole thing "I must cure myself of the Hulk" cause nobody but Bruce WANTS that, we all showed up here because we want to see the Hulk! by putting Bruce's goal opposite the audience it makes us against him, unsympathetic
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The whole situation in Ragnarok where the Hulk is a huge celebrity with all these fans and nobody gives a shit about Bruce on this planet was hilariously meta And also kind of frighteningly on the nose for many people who are performatively angry for a living
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