like it works in, say, INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE when it's miles charging into danger because he's a good kid and he wants to help it's so wildly unnerving when it's "playboy billionaire who should absolutely know better giving a child weapons of war"
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Replying to @perdricof @arthur_affect and
Yeah, exactly! And it's not like Tony is *lacking* in more capable and less morally compromised assistance! There's so many more effective paramilitaries, mercenaries, and low-grade supers introduced even in his prior outings! Peter isn't there for any narrative-sensible reasons.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
Peter is recruited by Tony Stark for entirely marketing and metatextual reasons, and so it's really unworkable to ever explicitly acknowledge it as a plot element. It's a gigantic creaking weakness.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
i actually think it's very in-character. sure, there's lots of metas, but none of them with spider-man's combination of power and weak will like every time this young demigod calls him "mr stark" it's such a hit of dopamine
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Replying to @perdricof @loudpenitent and
The circumstances of Peter Parker siding with Tony Stark are completely different in the comics version of Civil War but it still gets pointed out the Spider-Man being on the pro-reg side makes no sense because he has the most to lose of all of them from government oversight
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
Steve Rogers calls this out, hard, when he and Tony meet to try to discuss terms "Peter is a BOY, Tony, a 33-year-old BOY That poor broken kid had worn his desperation for a father-figure's approval since the day you met And when you saw you could use that you didn't HESITATE"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @perdricof and
Also, post-"CIVIL WAR" it seems pretty clear that he A.) has little intent of actually bringing Spider-Man onto the team same as the other adults after what happened in Germany (keeps telling him to dial it back, even the press event seems like a marketing thing)...
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Replying to @the_moviebob @arthur_affect and
...and B.) Toomes isn't really presented as a good guy who turns bad: He's a *contractor in NYC,* even outside of the superhero genre in movies that means you're already crime/mob adjacent.
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Replying to @the_moviebob @arthur_affect and
my dad is a teamster from Chicago and the company he worked for embezzled like wacky amounts of money, so yeah
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @the_moviebob and
I can't remember if I've told this story but there was some kind of union lawsuit when the company (Palumbo Bros. Inc.) went under, which my father claims yielded him a cash payout which my mother swindled from him to pay for her first boob job
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All your family stories sound like something some sitcom writer would make up as a bit of in-passing worldbuilding for why the tragically fucked up side character ended up the way they did
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