I think calling him a supervillain is inaccurate, if only because Tony can both be a basically good person and be situationally wrong. He's the antagonist, but he is ultimately the tool of higher powers exploiting his traumas?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
He casually destroyed someone's livelihood to make his own life fractionally easier and then never realized that his protégé's problems eight years down the line were completely his fault.
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Replying to @cymaiden @perdricof and
That's not "a supervillain." That's "an antagonist," especially given that if I recall correctly the dude whose livelihood he destroys is himself fairly well to do? That's the Spider-Man villain right?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
Adrian Toomes' salvage team were contracted to help with the clean-up after the Battle of New York before Tony Stark sent someone to tell them that said contract was being waived in favor of a joint operation between Stark Industries and the US government.
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Replying to @cymaiden @loudpenitent and
At which point, Toomes is like "screw this, let's take the salvage and go onto the black market" and proceeds to become moderately wealthy off the back of it.
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Replying to @cymaiden @loudpenitent and
There's the process by which Quentin Beck (and his whole team) became Mysterio, after years of Tony casually mistreating them and taking credit for their work, apparently with the final straw being Tony claiming he invented the VR brain scanner Quentin spent his career developing
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
Hot take: the Spider-Man films are really an enormous portion of what makes the MCU feel really disjointed this way. like so much Discourse about MCU weirdness seems to come from them just...never successfully meshing Spider-Man with everything else?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
It's because the Spider-Man films are more Sony films than Marvel films. Very little that happens in them affects the rest of the MCU.
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Replying to @Kthranos @loudpenitent and
Like, the reason the world seems normal and they're going on vacation just after the blip happened is because Sony had that specific release date for a Spider-Man movie, but they weren't allowed to do the worldbuilding stuff that the other MCU films do
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Replying to @Kthranos @loudpenitent and
Without having seen FAR FROM HOME, my suspension of disbelief was shattered by ENDGAME alone, let alone the Disney+ shows. The Snap would have resulted in a world like in LOGAN but on steroids.
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The world in Logan wasn't even that "post-apocalyptic", it's mostly intact for the middle classes and up (Logan has a job as a limo driver taking high school girls to prom etc), it's just been hit by a pretty long and hard economic recession
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
It's just a reminder that the MCU isn't as great at showing the life of the bottom half of society as it'd like to be, FaWS's attempts notwithstanding (or the brief scenes of the real Westview in WandaVision)
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