the point is that tony is driven by guilt but in a totally displaced and maladaptive way he feels incredibly bad about what happened and does less than zero soul-searching about what character flaws led him to the mistakes he made
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Replying to @perdricof @Nymphomachy and
I don't disagree, I just feel that it's ultimately not wholly consistent with Tony's better angels, in a way that ultimately causes more problems - especially in some truly insufferable Discourse - than it solves.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
Really, after the whole Ultron incident, nobody should have trusted Tony Stark with any kind of responsibility ever again.
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Replying to @cymaiden @loudpenitent and
Yeah that was pretty much a worst case scenario, even with the movie trying to make it as innocent an accident as they possibly could
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
It's funny because when you think about it, that movie doesn't really give Wanda any reason to hate Tony Stark LESS
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @cymaiden and
I mean when she turns against Ultron it's because she comes to realize Ultron is just Tony Stark without his human limitations
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
"No taste buds, no stomach, no dick... What else is there to do? I guess CRASH AN ASTEROID INTO THE EARTH AND REMAKE THE BIOSPHERE AS A TECHNO-ORGANIC PERFECTION OF MY DESIGN"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
And yes the fact that her grievance is with Tony specifically and the movie never really gives the two of them a chance to deal with that is one reason this movie is bad
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Also like The comics made it really clear that Ultron is a bad copy of Hank Pym's brain and went over how this is reflected in his behavior a bunch of times The movie just kind of alludes to this idea of Ultron being Tony's metal son but barely justifies it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
they should have had rdj play ultron even that alone would have cranked the thematic resonance way higher
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Yeah I know James Spader was Joss' dream casting for Ultron since long before the MCU But he should've been voiced by either RDJ or Paul Bettany
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