I don't disagree, I just feel that it's ultimately not wholly consistent with Tony's better angels, in a way that ultimately causes more problems - especially in some truly insufferable Discourse - than it solves.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
Really, after the whole Ultron incident, nobody should have trusted Tony Stark with any kind of responsibility ever again.
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Replying to @cymaiden @loudpenitent and
Yeah that was pretty much a worst case scenario, even with the movie trying to make it as innocent an accident as they possibly could
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
It's funny because when you think about it, that movie doesn't really give Wanda any reason to hate Tony Stark LESS
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @cymaiden and
I mean when she turns against Ultron it's because she comes to realize Ultron is just Tony Stark without his human limitations
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
"No taste buds, no stomach, no dick... What else is there to do? I guess CRASH AN ASTEROID INTO THE EARTH AND REMAKE THE BIOSPHERE AS A TECHNO-ORGANIC PERFECTION OF MY DESIGN"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
And yes the fact that her grievance is with Tony specifically and the movie never really gives the two of them a chance to deal with that is one reason this movie is bad
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Also like The comics made it really clear that Ultron is a bad copy of Hank Pym's brain and went over how this is reflected in his behavior a bunch of times The movie just kind of alludes to this idea of Ultron being Tony's metal son but barely justifies it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Aren't superhero movies generally supposed to _simplify_ character backstories, not make them _more_ complicated? Like, Ultron may or may not be an uploaded Dark Elf from the dawn of time but is also a brain tape of Tony Stark somehow? How does this work?
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Replying to @cymaiden @Nymphomachy and
They make things more complicated when they try to take multiple different things from the comics and leave them recognizable for the fanboys but still compress them together to make one movie less than two hours long
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Anyway yeah in Infinity War Bruce explicitly says that Vision has ended up being this random stew of all kinds of people's minds somehow "It's not just the Mind Stone in there, it's pieces of Ultron, Jarvis, Tony, me... All of us"
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