Yeah and Peter's only viable morally - or consistent with Stark's most driving motives - if he literally doesn't know he's a kid.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
the point is that tony is driven by guilt but in a totally displaced and maladaptive way he feels incredibly bad about what happened and does less than zero soul-searching about what character flaws led him to the mistakes he made
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Replying to @perdricof @Nymphomachy and
I don't disagree, I just feel that it's ultimately not wholly consistent with Tony's better angels, in a way that ultimately causes more problems - especially in some truly insufferable Discourse - than it solves.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
Really, after the whole Ultron incident, nobody should have trusted Tony Stark with any kind of responsibility ever again.
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Replying to @cymaiden @loudpenitent and
Yeah that was pretty much a worst case scenario, even with the movie trying to make it as innocent an accident as they possibly could
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
It's funny because when you think about it, that movie doesn't really give Wanda any reason to hate Tony Stark LESS
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @cymaiden and
I mean when she turns against Ultron it's because she comes to realize Ultron is just Tony Stark without his human limitations
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
"No taste buds, no stomach, no dick... What else is there to do? I guess CRASH AN ASTEROID INTO THE EARTH AND REMAKE THE BIOSPHERE AS A TECHNO-ORGANIC PERFECTION OF MY DESIGN"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
And yes the fact that her grievance is with Tony specifically and the movie never really gives the two of them a chance to deal with that is one reason this movie is bad
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Also like The comics made it really clear that Ultron is a bad copy of Hank Pym's brain and went over how this is reflected in his behavior a bunch of times The movie just kind of alludes to this idea of Ultron being Tony's metal son but barely justifies it
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It doesn't say Tony scanned his brain or anything, just kind of handwaves that Ultron learned everything he knew from Tony's computer system
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
oh god he learned everything from Tony Stark's browser history, and secondarily the internet at large
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
Jokes about turning into a Nazi after 30 seconds on Twitter aside, the movie seems to imply the first thing he read was Tony's vague design document for the Ultron Project and based his identity on that statement about what he was supposed to be
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