I think calling him a supervillain is inaccurate, if only because Tony can both be a basically good person and be situationally wrong. He's the antagonist, but he is ultimately the tool of higher powers exploiting his traumas?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
He casually destroyed someone's livelihood to make his own life fractionally easier and then never realized that his protégé's problems eight years down the line were completely his fault.
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Replying to @cymaiden @perdricof and
That's not "a supervillain." That's "an antagonist," especially given that if I recall correctly the dude whose livelihood he destroys is himself fairly well to do? That's the Spider-Man villain right?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
Adrian Toomes' salvage team were contracted to help with the clean-up after the Battle of New York before Tony Stark sent someone to tell them that said contract was being waived in favor of a joint operation between Stark Industries and the US government.
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Replying to @cymaiden @loudpenitent and
At which point, Toomes is like "screw this, let's take the salvage and go onto the black market" and proceeds to become moderately wealthy off the back of it.
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Replying to @cymaiden @loudpenitent and
There's the process by which Quentin Beck (and his whole team) became Mysterio, after years of Tony casually mistreating them and taking credit for their work, apparently with the final straw being Tony claiming he invented the VR brain scanner Quentin spent his career developing
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
Hot take: the Spider-Man films are really an enormous portion of what makes the MCU feel really disjointed this way. like so much Discourse about MCU weirdness seems to come from them just...never successfully meshing Spider-Man with everything else?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
i mean they really painted themselves into a corner there 1: canonically, spider-man is an avenger 2: the avengers are a team of soldiers who fight planetary-scale threats 3: spider-man is a *child*
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Replying to @perdricof @arthur_affect and
Additional hot take: 4: The MCU is better off w/o the X-Men and probably would be w/o Spider-Man too.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
The way it worked out, where Spider-Man has to be "an Avenger" so the franchise can still have its crossovers, is very hard to harmonize with the classic idea of Spider-Man as an underdog high school student
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I mean come on I like Tom Holland well enough but this is a version of Peter who's been handed the keys to a network of orbiting killsats before he was old enough to drink
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Get into the Iron Spider armor, Peter Get into the Iron Spider armor or Cassie Lang will have to wear it
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