"the only problem with project insight was it wasn't my finger on the trigger" --literally tony stark
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Replying to @perdricof @cymaiden and
I think calling him a supervillain is inaccurate, if only because Tony can both be a basically good person and be situationally wrong. He's the antagonist, but he is ultimately the tool of higher powers exploiting his traumas?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
He casually destroyed someone's livelihood to make his own life fractionally easier and then never realized that his protégé's problems eight years down the line were completely his fault.
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Replying to @cymaiden @perdricof and
That's not "a supervillain." That's "an antagonist," especially given that if I recall correctly the dude whose livelihood he destroys is himself fairly well to do? That's the Spider-Man villain right?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @perdricof and
Adrian Toomes' salvage team were contracted to help with the clean-up after the Battle of New York before Tony Stark sent someone to tell them that said contract was being waived in favor of a joint operation between Stark Industries and the US government.
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Replying to @cymaiden @loudpenitent and
At which point, Toomes is like "screw this, let's take the salvage and go onto the black market" and proceeds to become moderately wealthy off the back of it.
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Replying to @cymaiden @loudpenitent and
There's the process by which Quentin Beck (and his whole team) became Mysterio, after years of Tony casually mistreating them and taking credit for their work, apparently with the final straw being Tony claiming he invented the VR brain scanner Quentin spent his career developing
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
Hot take: the Spider-Man films are really an enormous portion of what makes the MCU feel really disjointed this way. like so much Discourse about MCU weirdness seems to come from them just...never successfully meshing Spider-Man with everything else?
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Replying to @loudpenitent @cymaiden and
Well no it's just that the Spider-Man movies are the continuation of the Iron Man series where we focus on Tony and his legacy and get to see his feet of clay
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
The Mysterio thing is just a Reality Ensues moment on Tony's whole shtick His whole merry prankster thing where he's like "I'm such a genius I invent random breakthrough technologies in my sleep and I give them stupid names because I can barely keep track of them"
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This can't possibly be true of every single invention he puts his name on, this is obviously something enabled by the huge teams of hardworking professionals he has working under him, and at least some of those people aren't going to fully appreciate the Steve Jobs showmanship
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
Yeah, and that hits the big problem where Tony's whole situation is that his fantasy relies on him being fundamentally more a post-labor reality-warping wizard with infinite capital than like, an actual corporate CEO.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
Yeah. In fact, him putting a price tag on the memory playback hologram in Civil War actually flagged it to me as something built by someone else.
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