AGE OF ULTRON is very careful to give Tony as much plausible deniability and mitigating circumstances as possible when accidentally creating Ultron so that they can have the drama of "you created an apocalyptic murder robot!" without actually having him be fully responsible.
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Yeah it sucks It sucks enough that future movies just outright fudge/retcon the actual events of the movie to pretend they were something more dramatically interesting
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
Like how Bruce's conversation with Shuri in Infinity War just acts like Bruce and Tony actually designed and built Ultron and then Vision, as opposed to them plugging the scepter in and then everything kind of cascading on its own from there
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Technically, Ultron and Helen Cho jointly created the Vision's body before Tony and Bruce uploaded JARVIS into it and then had Thor jumpstart him with Mjolnir. Acknowledging this though would mean reminding people that Helen Cho exists, so...
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The creation of Vision in this movie especially is incredibly blatantly forced "Well we know this has to happen by the end of the movie so how do we get from point A to point Z"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @cymaiden and
Ultron really should've been saved for multi-film arc. With Vision created in like his second or third appearance, after he's escaped once and had time to rebuild himself and become a more ominous world-ending threat
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Replying to @FartCaptor @arthur_affect and
James Spader does feel kind of wasted
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @FartCaptor and
Yeah I mean Ultron's whole shtick in the comics is how he can't be permanently killed and keeps coming back with new version numbers
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Nymphomachy and
Joss Whedon literally missed the whole point of Ultron and it's only in the bottom 100 worst things he's ever done on film
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Replying to @HenryWHall @Nymphomachy and
I mean he kind of pays homage to the concept by having all the different Ultron bodies be one indistinguishable hive mind
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But yes the point of making the bad guy be Ultron was that Whedon wanted a villain who was a contrast to Thanos Rather than being this cosmic outside-context problem who sees the Avengers only as puny obstacles One who has a *history* with the Avengers, something *personal*
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Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryWHall and
And the Ultron in the movie... wasn't that Hard to say if you can pull that off in just one movie but you definitely can't in a movie this short and rushed Ironically the other archnemesis of this kind the Avengers have in the comics is Baron Zemo, and that's working way better
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Replying to @arthur_affect @HenryWHall and
I think if they had set up Ultron throughout phase 2 the same way they did with Loki and the tesseract throughout phase 1, it would’ve worked better.
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