This idea of black-and-white definitions -- "You're EITHER trans or cis, you're EITHER gay or straight, you're EITHER male or female" -- that is the essence of homophobic bigotry that LGB Alliance types have tried to retcon into being a big gay tradition
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
And I think people fall into the trap of trying to defend ideas like this because they don't want to give oxygen to the idea "conversion therapy works" etc. Which, again, I see as a mistake -- it's not about whether conversion therapy "works", it's a moral atrocity either way
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
*Of course* some people who live in a homophobic society who are subjected to conversion therapy will, as a result of this, avoid gay sex and stay in het marriages who otherwise would've Of course that's why they do it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
I disagree with conversion therapists about what's going on under the hood in such a scenario -- I think the societal benefit of doing this isn't worth the suffering and trauma it causes But from a black-box perspective of securing compliance, sure, it works just fine
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
Plenty of trans kids with affirming parents and communities are coming out early in life who, if they'd been born in 1970, likely would've never come out in their entire lives, and just suffered silently with feelings and impulses they didn't know what do with That's good!
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
The terfs are reminding me of the toxic side of the Behaviorist movement in psychology. The idea was that all behaviour and actions are the result of external stimuli, there's no underlying thought or reasoning behind anything. If someone does something weird, their (con't)
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Replying to @Zendervai @arthur_affect and
Oh. Great. Now I get to learn about something that makes me upset again. And apparently this is where Cognitive Behavioral Therapy comes from. More upset.
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Replying to @EhcksTGD @Zendervai and
Super frustrating that CBT accidentally can help with some issues despite being rooted in what is at best pseudo-science. Like most of psychology, honestly. The roots, that is.
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I love psychology (even have a degree in it) but it's a weird mush of ideas and concepts that aren't backed that well and it wasn't started by the best people. Freud at least kind of cared about traumatized veterans, Jung was a racist who ran a sex cult. But both sucked.
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Replying to @Zendervai @Luarien and
The harshest own I can think of for MBTI isn't even the racist mystery novel that Isabel Briggs-Myers wrote, it's that she had this fan correspondence with Jung that ended with him calling her a dangerous busybody filled with narcissistic hubris
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Jung -- CARL Jung -- making this accusation of anyone else And yet he was completely correct (Myers was insistent on applying what she understood of Jung's theories to try to "help" the other neighborhood kids who played with her daughter without their parents' consent)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Zendervai and
See if you didn't know what it was about you could call this an arrogant male scholar dismissing the idea a mere sheltered American housewife could understand his ideas And I guess it was that But he was, you know, correct
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Zendervai and
He really tears into her in that last letter about how only someone with this childlike, grotesquely oversimplified view of the human condition -- with no sense of the darkness in the abyss at the center of the human heart -- would mess around with other people's minds so lightly
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