Which is nonsense -- being trans, like literally every other thing a human being can be, has to be the result of some combination of genes and environment Siblings raised in the same household share both The odds of clusters of trans siblings should be pretty good
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Luarien and
Also, I feel the role of acceptance is massively undervalued. Someone who is in a bigoted environment is less likely to even think about being trans. If parents had regular conversations about gender; the number of people who would be able to identify as GNC would increase
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Replying to @NoTheOtherGuy @Luarien and
See yeah I'm actually perfectly fine with saying trans-accepting parents are more likely to have trans kids, and that there is a "social contagion" of trans acceptance within communities making it more likely for kids to come out
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
Why on Earth shouldn't that be true? It'd be absurd to argue that there don't seem to be more gay people around now than in the 1950s It's only when you put a sinister black-and-white gloss on things like this that it becomes a battleground
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
This idea of black-and-white definitions -- "You're EITHER trans or cis, you're EITHER gay or straight, you're EITHER male or female" -- that is the essence of homophobic bigotry that LGB Alliance types have tried to retcon into being a big gay tradition
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
And I think people fall into the trap of trying to defend ideas like this because they don't want to give oxygen to the idea "conversion therapy works" etc. Which, again, I see as a mistake -- it's not about whether conversion therapy "works", it's a moral atrocity either way
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
*Of course* some people who live in a homophobic society who are subjected to conversion therapy will, as a result of this, avoid gay sex and stay in het marriages who otherwise would've Of course that's why they do it
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
I disagree with conversion therapists about what's going on under the hood in such a scenario -- I think the societal benefit of doing this isn't worth the suffering and trauma it causes But from a black-box perspective of securing compliance, sure, it works just fine
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
Plenty of trans kids with affirming parents and communities are coming out early in life who, if they'd been born in 1970, likely would've never come out in their entire lives, and just suffered silently with feelings and impulses they didn't know what do with That's good!
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
The undertone I hear to people spending a lot of time going on and on about there being more or less trans people alive is they don't truly believe that trans people are awesome and a world with trans people in it is beautiful. Which is gross!
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Right, the idea is that being trans is a disease and that increasing numbers of trans people means the disease is spreading ("social contagion"), that we grudgingly allowed transition to try to *cure* the disease but it's making it worse
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Stanford_lands and
It is very obvious that this is how even self-identified "compassionate" and "moderate" TERFs like Jesse Singal view the situation, that the mindset of "being trans is good and transition is a celebration!" is utterly alien to someone like him
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Replying to @arthur_affect @NoTheOtherGuy and
They see cis as the default from which there can only be "deviance," which manages to be simultaneously ahistorical and incredibly rude. There have always been and will always be trans people and that is GREAT.
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