I never said that, but I understand that it might seem to be what I'm saying. I'm trying to point out that transwomen have a stake in this as well, and that perhaps have conversations with the rest of us on how to solve this. Because, you might have noticed,>>
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penises aren't very popular. But when women who react negatively to penises, say they do, they are dismissed. So no conversation going on. If transwomen were to acknowledge that penises aren't to be shown in women's spaces, we would get somewhere. Or perhaps that they should not>
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participate in contact sports. Or that they should have their own shelters. Or acknowledge that some who identify as woman, might pose a threat. Anything, actually, that will open a conversation about when, where and how transwomen are to be included. Now it's being forced upon>
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Replying to @MEVring @mssilverstein and
very unwilling women. And there already is a reaction to this, and so thinking that it will just blow away when women are under pressure from society, men, Covid, etc, is naive. Transpeople didn't cause this, it's the entire setting in which transpeople brought their agenda >>
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that were unfortunate. And it doesn't help that some of the rhetoric strikes women to their core either. At least if trans organizations and trans activists had managed to not sound misogynistic, we would have had these conversations years ago. Instead, women are on the rise.
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Okay see my read on the history of trans activism is that it's spent a lot of time as the ignored stepchild of "LGBT" activism and trans people have spent a lot of time being absurdly apologetic for their existence
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Replying to @arthur_affect @MEVring and
And TERFs, like oppressive majorities everywhere, have spent a lot of time *not noticing* the tensions within "the community" and the need to balance real, urgent suffering with tactical respectability politics
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Which is why you get this sincere surprise from a lot of TERF circles about how "These violent scary TRAs appeared out of nowhere c. 2014 or so and just started *demanding everything*", as though they expected trans people to be content with table scraps forever
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Replying to @arthur_affect @MEVring and
This is *extremely similar* to the narrative that, say, white people have about the excesses of "BLM and antifa" Like they really seriously think everything was going hunky-dory for race relations in the Obama years and then BLM "poisoned" everything
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I've had to sit through an absurdly condescending rant -- a serious "Can you even hear yourself?" moment -- from some dude talking about his Black employees who "used to be the kindest, most decent people, would give you the shirt off their back" and then "Obama brainwashed them"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @MEVring and
"This meanness, this suspicion and resentment, I don't know where it comes from Obama was supposed to lead us out of this hatred and instead he led his Black followers deep into a cult that idolizes race war" Well yeah I can see how it might seem that way, if you're stupid
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It's just, this deep, deep ignorance, this willful desire to *not know* To *earnestly believe* that how your knowledge of how your Black employees acted around their boss was some kind of genuine insight into "the Black community"
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