What do you mean by "extreme"??? Practically all interventions that are common today were one day, when medical technology was less developed, considered "extreme".
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Replying to @G0ldunDrak0n @arthur_affect and
Opposite sex organ transplants, combined with artificial hormones to induce viable pregnancy in males is extreme medical intervention. Its not even proven to be possible. I would hardly describe that as routine.
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Replying to @rach12sun @G0ldunDrak0n and
My grandfather would hardly have used "routine" to describe shooting lasers into your eyeball to correct your vision, but it's outpatient procedure now. "Extreme" in the context of medical technology just means "not common yet."
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Replying to @sethsellis @G0ldunDrak0n and
You're really comparing laser eye surgery to cross sex organ transplants




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Replying to @rach12sun @G0ldunDrak0n and
Yep! Tech procedures intervening in the human body; once unthinkable, now thinkable; repugnant to those of limited empathy and imagination who value an abstract universal human body over the real diverse bodies of humans; but then, once common, those people forget they ever cared
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Replying to @sethsellis @G0ldunDrak0n and
You're on another planet if you think an organ transplant and 9 months of pregnancy viable only with extreme medical/hormonal intervention and monitoring is routine.
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Replying to @rach12sun @G0ldunDrak0n and
I don't think it's routine yet. I think it could become routine, like laser eye surgery, given time and technological progress. I think you, right now, are like someone in 1985 arguing that mad doctors shooting lights into your eyes is unnatural and will never be okay. But it is!
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Replying to @sethsellis @G0ldunDrak0n and
You don't even have to be put to sleep for laser eye surgery. There is absolutely no comparison here to implementing an opposite sex organ in a male body not developed to support it as well as the hormones and intervention required to sustain a pregnany. But yeah laser
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Replying to @rach12sun @sethsellis and
Yes Laser eye surgery currently exists and is routine, and uterine transplants for trans women currently do not exist and would be experimental What point do you think you're making by saying this
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Replying to @arthur_affect @rach12sun and
The fact that bodies are very difficult to modify on the "gross anatomical level" is a key feature of the status quo of human existence It is a feature that is responsible for much of the suffering people experience today It sucks and we shouldn't tolerate it
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But gaining the ability to modify the body isn't something you can easily arbitrarily restrict to just "restoring normal operation" "Normal" doesn't actually exist outside the brute fact of what's currently "normal" because it's common
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Replying to @arthur_affect @rach12sun and
Do you want it to be possible someday for someone born with osteogenesis imperfecta to, if they so choose, replace their skeleton with a "normal" one that gives them the range of motion and activity other people have? You should, it's a pretty shitty thing to oppose on principle
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Replying to @arthur_affect @rach12sun and
But a world where such a thing was possible would *also* be a world where "normal" people could change their skeletons whatever wacky ways they wanted, if *they* so chose That silly cyberpunk future where people have wings or tails or extra arms
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