Abortions are fucking amazing. Tons of people get them without it being a harrowing thing, and for tons more its something they celebrate. Being aware of that isn't an 'abortion fantasy'
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Replying to @jl_schnelle @arthur_affect and
I agree with all of what you said. The abortion fantasy I refer to is Grace's tweet yesterday sharing their excitement that a trans women alive today might be the first to have an abortion. Is that progressive? Being excited for abortion after extreme medically induced pregnancy?
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Replying to @rach12sun @jl_schnelle and
Although Grace deliberately said what she did in a trolling way, it's still remarkable how hard you're missing the point She's not talking about someone getting a harrowing experimental uterine transplant for the purpose of having an abortion
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Replying to @arthur_affect @rach12sun and
She's talking about a world where reprotech is advanced and normalized enough that someone who was born without the ability to get pregnant can acquire it easily and casually enough that unwanted pregnancy and termination among such people is no longer remarkable
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jl_schnelle and
Sorry I didn't realise we were talking about made up, impossible scenarios. Male pregnancy will never be possible without extreme medical intervention. I don't find males gleefully anticipating abortion funny.
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Replying to @rach12sun @jl_schnelle and
Well we could debate over what is and isn't "possible" on a purely factual basis but TERFs never engage with the argument this way -- it's usually impossible to separate "impossible" from "undesirable" (and indeed "perverse" and "immoral") and that's clearly the case with you
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Replying to @arthur_affect @rach12sun and
For my part, if reprotech *doesn't* ever advance to the point where being the "kind of person who gestates" is ultimately a completely voluntary free choice -- either to do it or not to do it -- then what the fuck is the point of any of this
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Replying to @arthur_affect @rach12sun and
"Radical feminism" has gone a long, long way backwards since the days of Shulamith Firestone
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Replying to @arthur_affect @jl_schnelle and
Males, without medical intervention, cannot gestate a baby. For this to occur, a uterus transplant would be required. In what world is cross sex organ transplant not extreme medical intervention? Don't just say "I would debate you but...blah blah fuck terfs". Debate me.
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Replying to @rach12sun @arthur_affect and
Also, are you suggesting there's no point to science and life on earth if the end game is not males can also gestate? Are you mentally well?
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Read Shulamith Firestone's The Dialectic of Sex and complain to her about it
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