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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      Anyway the attempt to build a hard barrier between "science fiction" and "horror" came from within the SF community, a lot of whom were really ideological and snobbish This was a whole theme of Joseph Campbell's deliberate push to change the genre during his career at Astounding

      3 replies 3 retweets 39 likes
    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      He was a chauvinist who wanted to harshly sever the ties between science fiction and fantasy (no more "planetary romances" and "space operas" with space swordfights and space castles and space princesses), even though that kind of shit is how the genre started

      2 replies 2 retweets 38 likes
    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      People internalized his baleful gatekeeping glare at any and all corny, commercialized celebration of obsolete feudal values and aesthetics in "what SHOULD be a genre about the FUTURE" that you get people straightfacedly arguing *Star Wars* isn't science fiction

      1 reply 2 retweets 32 likes
    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      "You should be calling it science FANTASY" Okay bitch then literally every single fucking thing they printed in "science fiction" magazines in the first half of the "Golden Age of Science Fiction" in the '30s was "actually science FANTASY" It all had swords and magic and shit

      3 replies 4 retweets 38 likes
    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      The sheer audacity it takes to say that Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers and John Carter (which Lucas was shamelessly just ripping off) isn't "really science fiction" Come on guys

      1 reply 3 retweets 21 likes
    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      Anyway it's the same with Campbell's disciples wanting to cut their genre ties with The Thing From Another World and Invasion of the Body Snatchers and The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms and The Walking Dead and, yes, OG classics Frankenstein/The Invisible Man/Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

      1 reply 1 retweet 15 likes
    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      They said that science fiction should be an OPTIMISTIC genre, a genre that was PRO-tech and PRO-futurism If the story talked about "Things Man Was Not Meant to Know" and showed humanity defeated and helpless in the face of new tech or aliens or whatever, it wasn't "really SF"

      1 reply 2 retweets 14 likes
    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      They believed this so strongly, of course, precisely because at the time they were wrong "Science fiction horror" stories about new inventions going horribly wrong or about discovering something new and strange that kills us all have ALWAYS been bestsellers in the genre

      1 reply 2 retweets 17 likes
    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      And so the snobbery of SF nerds was about really aggressive gatekeeping Back in the day when they said "I'm into *science fiction*, not schlocky 'sci-fi'" what they specifically meant was those "monster movies" the studios were cranking out all the time

      1 reply 3 retweets 16 likes
    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      But, again, if you're trying to claim that "science fiction has to be about humans coming to understand and overcome the strangeness instead of being defeated by it" as objective truth and not an aspiration, well, you're just wrong You're still wrong today

      2 replies 2 retweets 15 likes
      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
      Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

      Science fiction arguably started with a Gone Horribly Wrong horror story with Frankenstein and what Asimov frustratedly referred to as "the Frankenstein complex" (fear and horror of new tech) is all over the place today Because people who feel that way aren't, you know, wrong

      10:40 AM - 7 Apr 2021
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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Apr 7
          Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

          Is Black Mirror not "science fiction" because it's "horror"? Like, a lot of it clearly is just "horror" but some of it is some of the most "realistic" and prescient SF anyone's seen in recent mass media

          4 replies 2 retweets 19 likes
        3. ACAB Whisperer‏ @Luarien Apr 7
          Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

          See also; the Twilight Zone (either tv show)

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. Dr. Samantha Hancox-Li‏ @perdricof Apr 7
          Replying to @arthur_affect @ToccoTrevor and

          i mean, i also strongly feel the "caveman science fiction" critique because i think people are often inclined to blur together critiques of technologies with critiques of modernity generally "we have broken from the natural order!", a fundamentally conservative message

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. Dr. Samantha Hancox-Li‏ @perdricof Apr 7
          Replying to @perdricof @arthur_affect and

          this isn't to police the boundaries of the genre, like caveman science fiction is inarguably science fiction i just don't particularly like the message!

          0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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