But there *are* differences and times when the material genre becomes particularly relevant; for instance, Arrival is a family drama about grief but leaving out the aliens would be a misleading description
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The sheer audacity it takes to say that Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers and John Carter (which Lucas was shamelessly just ripping off) isn't "really science fiction" Come on guys
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Anyway it's the same with Campbell's disciples wanting to cut their genre ties with The Thing From Another World and Invasion of the Body Snatchers and The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms and The Walking Dead and, yes, OG classics Frankenstein/The Invisible Man/Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
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I used to be one of those Science Fiction vs Science Fantasy guys. Honestly it only works if your familiarity with the genre is limited. Once you take in the breadth of it, there's no clear place to draw the line, and the distinction is worthless.
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There was a time, I think, when American media tried to draw a hard line. You'd have, like, Ben Bova and Asimov on one side, and George Lucas and Gene Roddenberry on the other. Mostly that was from about the 1970s through the 1990s, as far as I can tell.
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Shit, Star Trek is fantasy if you think about it for 2 seconds.
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I think I've heard people argue that as well while hearing people distinguish ST as being sci-fi while SW is "science fantasy".
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