I think what's telling about genre discourse is that the Nerd Genres, fantasy and science fiction, act like the definition of a "genre" is having "rules" about what's "allowed to happen" in the setting, and nerds think all genres work this way when mostly they don't
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Jonathan Franzen's The Corrections is technically science fiction, it's even about a classic science fiction idea (the corporation threatening to build a machine to edit and improve human personalities) It's just that because it's litfic the machine never ends up being built
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This is why when Cavalier and Clay broke huge I loved the book, but was annoyed by a lot of the readers.
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