I think what's telling about genre discourse is that the Nerd Genres, fantasy and science fiction, act like the definition of a "genre" is having "rules" about what's "allowed to happen" in the setting, and nerds think all genres work this way when mostly they don't
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Iain M. Banks (RIP) had a lot of very funny things to say about that.
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Like the "present day" setting of Infinite Jest is a satirical corporate dystopia If it were just a tiny bit less satirical and you turned up the badass factor with chrome and neon a little more you could easily just call it "cyberpunk"
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But really it's not a matter of the specific details but what the author is interested in Like you can tell DFW wasn't really interested in the futuristic setting for its own sake, which is why so many "flashback" scenes take place in the realistic present day
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Right like Kazuo Ishiguro and Margaret Atwood, the former of which is basically just rewriting Blade Runner as “respectable” literary novels over and over
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Frankenstein, a literary classic and one of the most well-known horror stories, is also considered the first modern science fiction novel. Go back far enough and these genre boundaries, INCLUDING sf, fantasy, and horror, are either blurry or simply nonexistent.
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In the old days the stereotypical "science fiction B-movie" was a "monster movie", which is really, really inarguably a kind of horror movie In fact if you just say "monster movie" today it's impossible to really sort the ones that we think of as "the horror genre" vs "sci-fi"
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Yesterday, I described Macbeth as fantasy horror:https://twitter.com/hellianne/status/1379552066079752194 …
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I'm just here for when hard boiled detective sci-fi shows up.
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Blade Runner doesn’t count? Lots of cyberpunk feels like it fits here
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there's some great stuff about this in Doris Lessing's intro to...I want to say the first Canopus in Argos but it may've been Memoirs of a Survivor. somewhere in my files I have some photocopies from some archived papers of hers that go into it even more. she had Thoughts.
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