I think what's telling about genre discourse is that the Nerd Genres, fantasy and science fiction, act like the definition of a "genre" is having "rules" about what's "allowed to happen" in the setting, and nerds think all genres work this way when mostly they don't
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It's worth pointing out whenever talking about genre that Alien and Aliens are obviously in very different genres (Alien is very clearly a horror movie and Aliens, horrifying and tragic though it may be, isn't) but Friday the 13th and Friday the 13th Pt. 2 obviously aren't
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Even though the big twist of Pt. 1 was "Okay so this is our world after all, nothing truly supernatural happens" and then Pt. 2 was "OR DOES IT" (But the franchise doesn't actually firmly commit to "Okay yeah Jason is supernatural and undead" until Pt. 6)
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That seems to be a common problem with horror, really? Once there starts being Lore it tends to start to suck.
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