I just want to add that the last freakout about celebrity trans people I remember was TERFs flipping out about an interview with Halsey about coming out as non-binary With Halsey saying "I've always had feelings like this but it wasn't until I had a kid that they solidified"https://twitter.com/drdevonprice/status/1377629446841237508 …
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And the narrative failed It fails a lot of people, a HUGE NUMBER of people completely internalize the narrative "Well, maybe this whole 'woman' thing will make sense to me after I get pregnant, which is the Purpose of Womanhood and all" and then it just doesn't
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This kind of thing applies to everyone, of course, even if you don't have a uterus AMAB people get bombarded with "You'll know what 'being a man' REALLY means once you get a girlfriend, once you get married, once you have a kid" It's less intense but it's there
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The thing is because of the hypervisibility of trans women and because of the distorted, performative radfem narrative TERFs have appropriated as their intellectual justification, this got worked through a lot faster
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On the one hand they're still saying "Young trans women coming out are just incels who don't want to be men because they'll never be a husband or father" On the other hand, they point to trans women with families coming out in middle age as "This is just MORE MALE SELFISHNESS"
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"They've reaped all the BENEFITS of manhood and now they want MORE" (An incredible thing to argue, as though coming out as a trans woman in middle age doesn't have quite extreme costs that exactly correlate to the level of "benefits" previously earned in the closet)
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(They could make this exact same argument about trans men who come out in middle age after having kids but they avoid it as hard as possible, helping contribute to the invisibility of older trans men, whom they prefer to pretend do not exist)
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(Because admitting there are any social "benefits" to cis female motherhood flies in the face of their entire narrative)
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They're totally opposed to gender roles and stereotypes, until someone actually tosses them out the window. Then you find out how very much they want to enforce them.
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