Jesse seems to think the only real thing about trans identity is dysphoria, and that ideally you'd be able to eliminate dysphoria without anyone transitioning. His ideal world doesn't have any trans people in it.
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Replying to @seemsweird3 @nberlat
Great point, person who I am sure has never in their life made an inference about a person's motives and worldview based on the things they have written and said, thanks for contributing
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Replying to @FrWhmThBelrose @nberlat
That's a pretty big inference. But he blocked me so I can't go back and re-explain it. If you think singal thinks trans people shouldn't exist... I think that's just proof your ideology is toxic. Calling attention to scientific unknowns shouldn't scare you
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Replying to @seemsweird3 @nberlat
It’s not a big inference at all. If JS believes (a) that “the only real thing ... is dysphoria”, and (b) ideally, you could treat GS without transitioning, then (c) his ideal world doesn’t have trans people. You can argue (a) or (b) but (c) is the logical outcome of the statementpic.twitter.com/7JDUxRLDX8
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This isn't some kind of hidden secret matter of interpretation Look, just try flat-out saying it, lay the gauntlet down -- tell Jesse and his TERF friends "I see being trans as a positive good It is a net gain for the world every time a kid transitions" See how they react
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Replying to @arthur_affect @FrWhmThBelrose and
They FLIP THE FUCK OUT at this sentiment, so much so that people who have to deal with "the debate" in any capacity have to carefully avoid saying anything along these lines It's the whole basis of their rage and anger -- "You want to turn kids into EUNUCHS"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @FrWhmThBelrose and
I don't think you can turn anyone into anything, and I don't want to try But more people being trans is good Trans people are good Transition is good All of these seemingly anodyne statements are things that people of Jesse's ilk think are horrifying and shocking
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Agreed, it’s very blatant - you can’t see transition as a last resort option unless you consider being trans to be a negative state. Otherwise, why insist transition be a last resort at all? If it’s good and fine, why not just allow people to transition?
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Right, like I don't think people should have to settle for "trans is neutral" as opposed to "trans is a positive net good" But TERFs won't EVEN let you have "trans is neutral" They are absolutely not neutrally indifferent to kids being trans or cis
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They see a transitioned body as actively BAD, a tragedy However much they try to couch it in sympathetic terms of pity and empathy and shit that condescension always slips through "It's such a damn SHAME you had to be you and not someone else"
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It’s so great to read how unapologetically you frame trans right issues, because you’re right. This is something I thought I’d learned from the marriage equality struggle, from reading about the struggle against racism - that making yourself small and apologetic is not only wrong
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Replying to @FrWhmThBelrose @arthur_affect and
but also completely ineffective. The answer to shame isn’t “no it’s fine”, it’s unapologetic pride. The box doesn’t get bigger if you try to shrink yourself down to fit, no matter how conditioned you are to default to that approach
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