"See, when your kid tells you something about who they are, you can't just accept it right away You gotta follow Ken Zucker's patented method of pushing back against it and trying to deny it You gotta keep telling them they're wrong and see how upset they get"
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"I mean of course they'll get UPSET, everyone gets upset But you don't know if they're REALLY trans until they get REALLY REALLY upset, upset enough to KILL THEMSELVES Without that first suicide attempt how do you know they're not faking"
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That's just science That's just making sure That's just doing your due diligence as a medical professional And if, sometimes, you don't swoop in quite early enough and they actually succeed in killing themselves, well, price of doing business
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TERFs love to accuse trans people of weaponizing suicide the way abusers do and it never gets through their thick fucking skulls that THEY MADE THAT THE ONLY OPTION Cis people wouldn't just let you do what you wanted with your own fucking body unless the alternative was death
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Jesse is advocating monstrous abuse here -- "You should've pushed back on that and kept telling your daughter she was a son and seen if she started cutting or something" -- and treating it like the humane, common-sense, scientific way to raise a kid God fuck him
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The "suicide argument" has always been a corner people back into "If you don't let gay people be gay, some of them will kill themselves" "If you don't let women work outside the home, some of them will kill themselves" It's a last resort nuclear argument
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And it fucking sucks because no one should want to have to go there We should be having the conversation of just *letting people do what they want and be happy* before suicide even gets on the table But fucking gatekeepers won't let you, they demand proof you're really serious
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The psychiatrist I saw for a referral to a GIC refused to refer me because I wasn't sufficiently enthusiastic about surgery. I ended up talking to someone else who had seen him and they were like "oh yeah, he does that. He wants you to really grovel so he knows you're serious"
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But this same psych called me manipulative for pointing out that if I didn't get hormones I was having suicidal ideation, so possibly he was just enjoying flexing his power for its own sake
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A lot of people who enjoy resisting patient autonomy and telling people they're wrong about themselves like to talk about how suicidal ideation is far more commonly reported than people realize but people following through and actually dying by suicide is a small percentage
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"So you see you can't just let them manipulate you It's a psychological symptom that doesn't actually mean an imminent threat of death" Yeah well fuck you
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Great, I get to live to a ripe old age while constantly thinking about killing myself, but hey I'll never have the guts to do it, so as far as you're concerned you've done your job All that matters is that I worked and contributed to society until I croaked right
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