There's a lot of irony in that the stereotype used to be classic joke-telling (snappy, concise, requires "genuine" wit) was coded "masculine" and meandering, emotive, just-hanging-out conversation was coded "feminine" *Real* standup vs. Those Chicks at The View Well now lookhttps://twitter.com/robintran04/status/1377131267351715845 …
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Now that Tiktoks and Vines are more and more a feminine/queer thing and cishet dudebros are the ones doing eight-hour-long livestreams where they pass a joint around and just vibe, they're desperately trying to completely reverse the stereotypes but still push them
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("Anyone can just *tell a joke* by riffing on popular memes of the day based on their squishy, relational, emotive, people-reading female brains It takes a tough thoughtful serious complex deep male brain to craft a *fleshed-out POV* that people seek to engage with long-term)
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There's probably people who will straight up defend both points of view, saying that jokes from old standup sets are different from modern-day Tiktoks, and hangout podcasts today are different from The View, because "the dude ones are actually smart and funny" Well, fuck 'em
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