I mean, that’s beside the point - I want Batman to be an interesting character. I’m in favor of gun restrictions but Batman in my mind would be well to my left on gun control. To me what’s interesting about him is that he’s trauma driven and gives up a key weapon bc of it
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @XavierGRichard1
In my mind Bruce Wayne feels like the master of Gotham when he swoops down over a bunch of thugs, when they fire *their* guns at him and he uses smoke bombs and ninjitsu and whatever else this version of him has to take them down, but firing a gun would destroy him inside.
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @XavierGRichard1
Yes In the prologue to Batman Beyond, a 50-year-old Bruce Wayne in the Beyond cybersuit Terry will someday wear intervenes in a hostage situation and takes out all the guys but one And then suddenly his heart has a twinge of angina and he falters
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And the last guy manages to overpower him and is about to kill him and the hostage, but at the last moment Bruce grabs one of the other guys' pistols and holds him at gunpoint And the guy screams in fear "No, don't!" and then the cops come
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Nothing Bruce did in this scene can be said to be morally wrong at all But you see him back in the Batcave with this thousand yard stare, ruminating on the image of him pointing the gun at the guy and the sudden fear in his eyes that he might get shot
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The smart reading of Superman killing Zod in MoS isn't even really about the civilians, anyways. Clark killing Zod is more a tragedy because it's finally extinguishing his only known, living tie to his Kryptonian heritage - it's decisively choosing Earth at Krypton's expense.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
But that relies on a lot more time spent emphasizing Clark's desire to connect to Krypton, which largely isn't really a thing in MoS.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
Like Zod knows he's outmatched, his attack against the civilians isn't actually intended to succeed per se, and his life no longer has any purpose. It's just a spiteful, vengeful attempt to hurt Clark by forcing him to put his money where his mouth is w/favoring Earth.
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Replying to @loudpenitent @arthur_affect and
Of course, MoS doesn't really communicate this that well, but the core of the theme is solid - to Zod, he is the last line of possible continuity for Krypton, for whom his love is genuine, and Clark is finishing its genocide. And it's kinda accurate!
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Both the 90s cartoon and Smallville did this better by giving it a big buildup where Clark actually thinks the other Kryptonian survivor is a good guy before the betrayal In Smallville's case he literally thought Zod was his father
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I liked that the cartoon played it off as a hilarious misunderstanding Mala (Zod's wife) was doing the whole charming naif "Show me your Earth ways" thing because she was operating under the assumption Kal-El was the King of Earth and he was gonna make her the Queen
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
When she finds out he's somehow a global celebrity superhero on Earth but ISN'T the King she gets all confused and upset, it literally makes no sense to her
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
And, like, by casually publicly referring to him as the King she forces Superman to do a damage control press conference saying he has no idea what she's talking about and disavowing any connection to her That's when she gets mad and decides to bring Zod back
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