I did like the thing on WandaVision where Vision's Halloween costume is a luchador, because actual superheroes do not exist in Wanda's sitcom universe (for sensible reasons) But it's weird to imagine a world where luchadores and comic book superheroes have no connection
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Same with the next episode creating a traveling circus to provide an environment for Vision's superhero form to blend in with Wrestlers, circus performers and comic book superheroes all look alike because in the early 20th century they were all imitating each other
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Also re: Spider-Man/Hogan - in context, at that point in time (mid-60s) FAR fewer people generally understood the kayfabe grift fully
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Replying to @the_moviebob @arthur_affect and
Like it was joked about as "fixed" MORE than boxing was, and there were different layers and levels to it and different promotions had different rules; but a good deal of it was organized around gambling with real money and even events "known" to be fake would try to sell...
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I get the sense that Stan Lee and Steve Ditko didn't necessarily realize that pro-wrestling is choreographed.
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It's possible neither of them or only one of them did; but it's also possible they knew that kids didn't know it. It wasn't regularly talked about.
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Replying to @the_moviebob @cymaiden and
(the 'dirty part' of all this is that the REASON pro-wrestling was able to maintain the level of secrecy as long as it did was that the pre-80s promotion circuit was basically a collection of organized crime syndicates and you did NOT want to f*** with their money)
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Yeah, Jess McMahon and Vince Sr creating Titan Sports was sort of an example of the business becoming gentrified An equivalent today might be the way lots of rich white people are suddenly jumping into the marijuana industry
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LOL... prior to 2015 my go-to metaphor was "imagine Eric and Don Jr Trump taking over The Medellín Cartel and getting cocaine reclassified as an antidepressant
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Replying to @the_moviebob @Nymphomachy and
Also to be fair, the "anyone can challenge the champ, last X time, you win the prize" was what pro wrestling was before the 1920's, as part of carnival attractions (and later, I think William Regal was one of the last in England). Always wanted an alt Spiderman with that start.
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Yeah and the idea of reviving this old tradition is the basis of Rocky
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