But this is, I think, incorrect Our society has a MASSIVE bias toward action vs. inaction, toward looking and acting busy even when you have no basis for making any kind of informed decision to act
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Radlein
The usual therapist take is that depression is a blunt hammer for dealing with bad times from the point of view of a small mammal ancestor It's literally a trigger for hibernation (seasonal affective disorder being a major physical link to depression)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Radlein
Everything looks gray and cold and shitty? Well then don't do anything Stay inside, lower your heartbeat and just stop moving until the sun comes back out again And they say this is an obsolete impulse and in the modern real world it's "irrational"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Radlein
But is it? Is that actually true? Seems to me that "pandemic depression" is EXTREMELY RATIONAL Someone who falls into a "quarantine funk" is fucking saving lives -- their own and others -- by lying in bed and not moving and refusing to believe it's safe out there
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Radlein
There's a fuckton of evidence that our society is fucked because we DO TOO MANY THINGS, and by so doing burn up resources on wasted bullshit The fact is that the biggest and most major way to fight climate change, for instance, is to DO LESS SHIT
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Radlein
Isn't it weird that we think if you're upset about something the right response is to DO SOMETHING, GET OUT IN THE STREETS "I'm so mad about climate change I'm gonna go out there and -- " Aaaah hold up -- go out how
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Radlein
"I'm gonna get on a plane to -- No, I'm gonna get in my car and -- No, I'm gonna -- huh" (I'm gonna be honest, "Why are you flying to twenty cities around the world on a private jet to yell about global warming?" is a good point)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Radlein
You wanna save the world from global warming? STOP GOING PLACES STOP DOING THINGS Be someone who never leaves their home, has never traveled outside their hometown, never tries exotic foods and spices and eats an extremely bland diet, never buys interesting new products
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Replying to @arthur_affect @Radlein
I can't help but think that vigorously attacking and seeking to destroy polluting industries will ultimately be more productive if your goal is to slow global warming. Not a comment on any of the rest of the thread, but that bit in particular I'm not sure logically follows.
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Replying to @Tom_Scribbler @Radlein
You could if you were extremely powerful and likely to succeed, but you aren't, they'll just fight back against you, defeat you and become more militant in the process
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One phenomenon depression has been linked to is "learned helplessness", that someone with an abusive childhood, for example, who learns that any positive action to try to change their situation will be punished, quite reasonably learns to give up and stop trying
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And, again, the idea that this is a diseased or disordered coping mechanism relies on the -- unproven, unevidenced -- assertion that to a first approximation this isn't just true for most people's lives Doing things only makes things worse
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We do think that environmental activism needs to happen, even though, yes, it comes with a cost.
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