That isn't true, many civilizations have lived sustainably with respect to their environments. The laboratory is here, making habitable resilient & sustainable buildings here is the baseline for building them there. You can't run a successful laboratory 33.9 million miles away.
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I get so frustrated with the "we need to teraform Mars because [whatever]" argument. If we need to teraform something, doing shit like reversing desertification is *right there.* We've fucked up the ecosystem of out own planet and fixing it is kind of a big deal.
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The way people just casually throw around words like "terraform" bothers me a lot, yeah Just -- the whole debate is *fundamentally* bonkers if you step back from the science-fiction mindset for one second (which is hard to do because it's baked into the American "frontier myth")
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I guess in real life it's linked to the "fantasy of moving to another city" This idea that all the things you currently find it difficult to do right now -- date, get a better job, eat well and exercise, stay on top of your bills -- would be easier if you moved somewhere else
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There's no logical reason this should be true All the problems you have in this city will exist in that other place *and then some* -- and then a lot, actually, because you're giving up all the knowledge and resources you have here
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And maybe for some people who actually are very talented and resourceful and lucky (and have a lot of money to start with) it really is just the psychological barrier of boredom that's holding them back and moving to San Francisco will turn out really great
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But for most people who think they'll turn their life around with a simple change of scenery this story predictably ends in tears
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Actually, I deeply regret this metaphor because most people who go to a big city go there because there's objectively stuff there that you could exploit -- there's more people, there's more money flowing around, there's more jobs and more stuff Going to Mars is the opposite
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"I think my job as a New York lawyer is making me unhappy You know what would make me happy? Moving into the Arizona desert and trying to start some kind of self-sustaining commune" Like the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend pilot squared
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Seriously though You can't fix ocean acidification or desertification or climate change HERE and you want to "terraform" MARS? "Look, I know that sink's been dripping for 20 years and I've never gotten around to fixing it but it'll be moot when I build a new house"
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God, this actually is familiar, toxic thinking isn't it "I won't NEED to fix the drywall in this house when I get a NEW house" "I won't NEED to deal with the communication problems in my marriage when I get a NEW marriage"
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It's an impressive number of parallels you can line up but you seem to be using the most hard core, reality decoupled El*n M*sk fanbois as grounds to dismiss the concept of human space exploration wholesale.
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Replying to @thoeger @arthur_affect and
There are, actually, other standpoints out there than "Earth is boring and old, leave it behind for an anarcho-capitalist paradise on Mars" and "drop the idea of humans on Mars completely".
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