And to just jump ahead to the end of the debate and be like "Okay what he MEANT by that was -- " is to cheat and skip over the long and actually quite difficult question of what "the flesh" that makes you do bad things means And sounds way less metal
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And they'd say that those called to be saints were prone to "fits of ecstasy" followed immediately by "the dark night" That God's nearness and inspiration was regularly and immediately followed by his withdrawal, a period of spiritual "dryness and despair"
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Like I know diagnosis-from-a-distance of historical figures is problematic but it's actually this Christian discourse about this stuff that's evolved into secular psychologists knowing bipolar (i.e. "mania" and "melancholia") was a thing
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And it’s horribly compounded by the insistence that this must be private and personal. Only God can forgive you after all. Sure they may do charity in groups but they suffer alone.
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