yeah like this is the real gist of the problem isn't it? it's that everyone really wants to be able to do what they want, and a lot of folks go "well why are artists special?"
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Replying to @loudpenitent @Nymphomachy and
In point of fact the NEA is mostly not very controversial at all and most of the money gets allocated to stuff like Shakespeare in the Park for kids, precisely to avoid this kind of thing
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
Unfortunately then they get yelled at by serious people in the art community that "There's already SO MUCH generic Shakespeare in the Park shit that gets funded through the private sector and why is your job just to give MORE money to the people who ALREADY get money"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
So then you get a Piss Christ kind of thing once in a while where they try to prove that they are real, credible artists plugged into the art community doing stuff famous educated critics think is valuable and cool Which, inevitably, provokes exactly this backlash
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Replying to @arthur_affect @loudpenitent and
I mean piss christ provoked a backlash because we live in a society that suffers the existence of Christianity, which, like the military and NASA, should also go away
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Replying to @Nymphomachy @arthur_affect and
fwiw, I used to be more irritated by space spending before when I thought of federal budgeting more like budgeting...but the truth is the US has tons of resources and could easily fund the space program and cure hunger in the US without too much trouble.
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Replying to @nberlat @Nymphomachy and
Yeah I think the idea that there's a Civilization-style "player" would could just click some sliders and "allocate things differently" is a massive fallacy A lot of people unconsciously make this assumption and it does not survive even a brief brush with how the government works
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Replying to @arthur_affect @nberlat and
Which is why even when you get a President who explicitly comes in promising to slash and burn all the "waste" to focus on what "really matters" -- and such Presidents are uniformly turds who want to buy more jets and bombs -- they do some damage but they fail at their task
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Replying to @arthur_affect @nberlat and
Appropriations bills are masses of compromises and pork barrel politics. Cutting NASA or any program like it wouldn’t actually have much of a tangible effect on how the US spends money. It probably isn't possible and all you would get in return is a new F-35 factory in Iowa.
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Replying to @jamari_oneal @arthur_affect and
I think a fallacy in discussion is the idea that government would funnel the money anywhere else other than some other area you hate. The problems involved in curing cancer ending hunger or creating world peace aren't a money problems. They're political ones.
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Yeah We aren't doing that because we just don't want to do it To most people it just seems too hard a problem and they don't know where to start A lot of powerful people don't even share those things as goals in the first place
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Replying to @arthur_affect @nberlat and
I totally think these problems are solvable. But if we solve them it's not going to be through budgeting. It's going to be by being willing to prioritize them and for that you need better (Not R) politicians. (The organizer in me always wants to turn things into GOTV)
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