Nolan was expanding on what Alan Moore wrote in The Killing Joke, where it presented an plausible origin, but Joker dismissed it. Saying he prefers his origin to be multiple choice.pic.twitter.com/jCqvQz60ml
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Nolan was expanding on what Alan Moore wrote in The Killing Joke, where it presented an plausible origin, but Joker dismissed it. Saying he prefers his origin to be multiple choice.pic.twitter.com/jCqvQz60ml
My take on the ridiculous number of retcons intentionally playing with the Joker's quip about having a "multiple choice past" is it's this kind of deep thing about depersonalization and dissociation
There is a tragic story about something that happened at the Ace Chemicals Plant that created the Joker It's not in dispute really that this story happened We just don't know which character in it was him He, himself, was so broken by it that he "lost track"
That's part of his whole chaotic terror amorality shit He's completely lost track of the distinction between victim and perpetrator, he thinks it's all the same and they're interchangeable, he even thinks that about HIS OWN STORY
The Joker is this living embodiment of the thing trolls do with "Well if you swap 'Nazis' and 'Jews' in that statement I think you will find it is in fact you who are the Nazi"
Is the Joker the vicious gangster the Red Hood Or is he an innocent hostage the Red Hood forced to dress up as him as a decoy Or is he an assassin who *pretended* to be a hostage so he could be forced to be the Red Hood's decoy so he could then *actually* usurp the Red Hood
Is the Joker a predator whose mind broke and made him desperately pretend he was always a victim or a victim trying to pretend he was always a predator or what It changes depending on what he wants out of you by telling the story in this moment
(Phillips' Joker toys with this by giving us the multiple choice question of whether Arthur is actually Thomas Wayne's son or not But it wasn't big enough an ambiguity to make this point, because Phillips wanted him to be unambiguously a victim)
I would've gone further and made the ambiguity be whether Fleck is out to avenge the death of his mother and girlfriend or whether he killed one or both of them himself (and whether the girlfriend was ever really his girlfriend)
Anyway I think this theme is itself compelling, even if it's also obviously problematic It's the theme of The Man in the Glass Booth
Is this man pretending to be a Holocaust survivor so he doesn't have to live with being a Nazi Or is pretending to be a Nazi so he doesn't have to live with being a survivor The ending implies it actually is the latter and asks you to imagine if that makes sense
Which, you know Very loaded and controversial Inspired the DS9 episode "Duet", which was a less controversial but still very compelling take
Can you expand on that DS9 episode? The title sounds familiar but the summary doesn't. Is it about Garrak?
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