of all the "fed up, had too much, can't take it anymore" characters, I've never understood the Joker for people to project on. He's not even that kind of character
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Is the Joker a predator whose mind broke and made him desperately pretend he was always a victim or a victim trying to pretend he was always a predator or what It changes depending on what he wants out of you by telling the story in this moment
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(Phillips' Joker toys with this by giving us the multiple choice question of whether Arthur is actually Thomas Wayne's son or not But it wasn't big enough an ambiguity to make this point, because Phillips wanted him to be unambiguously a victim)
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The Amoral Chaos is why Heath Ledger’s Joker is the only live action version that truly gets who the Joker is. 2019’s joker is a pathetic incel and Jared Leto’s was some weird blendered version of meth, a bad mushroom trip, Alien from Spring Breakers, & Jack Nicholson’s Joker.
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The ambiguity also reflects that it also doesn't matter, the most victim of the potential origins is the least like the Joker (and so the least likely) but even if that was the origin the harm he's done as the Joker far surpasses what the others did before that night.
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It only matters if you could restore that being before they became the Joker and that doesn't seem possible (the times the Joker has been sane either don't resemble any of the candidates at all or are extremely temporary).
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The joker = spaceape
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