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Mad genius, comedian, actor, and freelance voiceover artist broadcasting from the distant shores of Lake Erie (he/him)

Broadview Heights, Ohio
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Joined August 2009

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    1. Josiah Stevenson  🌷  🌐‏ @josiahstevenson Feb 13
      Replying to @alpert @mattyglesias

      I thought it mischarecterized both the blog and the community in ways I thought came off unfavorably (incl some*very* dishonest linking with Murray)

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    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 13
      Replying to @josiahstevenson @alpert @mattyglesias

      Arthur Chu Retweeted Arthur Chu

      Scott has directly said he likes eugenicshttps://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/1276353023782993920?s=19 …

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      Arthur ChuVerified account @arthur_affect
      Replying to @arthur_affect @sfmnemonic and 9 others
      Or, to be scrupulously honest (I know, I know, I'm so careless with facts) "I like both basic income guarantees and eugenics" Big difference pic.twitter.com/U3Ns56z8hg
      1 reply 1 retweet 19 likes
    3. Josiah Stevenson  🌷  🌐‏ @josiahstevenson Feb 13
      Replying to @arthur_affect @alpert @mattyglesias

      He's said the word but ...in that quote he literally says paying people to get sterilized would be far too coercive a thing to do, which means he's clearly not talking about the same family of things "eugenics" usually refers to

      5 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    4. Josiah Stevenson  🌷  🌐‏ @josiahstevenson Feb 13
      Replying to @josiahstevenson @arthur_affect and

      Setting aside whether he's right about whatever he actually means by "eugenics" here, you're also doing this same thing of blatantly lying about what he thinks

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Josiah Stevenson  🌷  🌐‏ @josiahstevenson Feb 13
      Replying to @josiahstevenson @arthur_affect and

      He's probably wrong about it, tbc, but he's also clearly talking about completely different kind of thing (I'm not even sure what; have only ever been an occasional reader)

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 13
      Replying to @josiahstevenson @alpert @mattyglesias

      If you don't think the general idea of "improving the genetic quality of the human population" is morally vile I don't care what you think about anything

      1 reply 8 retweets 58 likes
    7. Josiah Stevenson  🌷  🌐‏ @josiahstevenson Feb 13
      Replying to @arthur_affect @alpert @mattyglesias

      Seems like it depends a ton on what you mean by "quality" but...should we ban testing for Huntington's etc then?

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Josiah Stevenson  🌷  🌐‏ @josiahstevenson Feb 13
      Replying to @josiahstevenson @arthur_affect and

      Like I'm not sure where the line is, but someone wanting to adopt rather than have biological kids if they turn out to be a Huntington's carrier seems both perfectly fine and obviously "eugenics" in the sense you mean

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Carrie Laben‏ @pinguinus Feb 13
      Replying to @josiahstevenson @arthur_affect and

      Don't want to speak for Arthur but to me the difference would be - if a person wants to adopt after genetic testing, that's about improving the quality of their own and their hypothetical child's life (it could still be ableist in other ways, potentially.) (1/2)

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    10. Carrie Laben‏ @pinguinus Feb 13
      Replying to @pinguinus @josiahstevenson and

      Eugenics by necessity has to deal in population genetics. Requiring people with Huntington's genetic markers to adopt would be eugenics. Putting social pressure on them to do so, too, if done in a coordinated fashion.(2/2)

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 13
      Replying to @pinguinus @josiahstevenson and

      I am, in fact, neutral/hesitant about the idea that it might be better just to ban or restrict retail DNA testing, which is something Scott outrage-blogged about as evil censorship

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        1. Wayne Werner‏ @waynejwerner Feb 13
          Replying to @arthur_affect @pinguinus and

          I would love to have my DNA tested but I'm also terrified of Google, or whatever member of the oligarchy buys my DNA.

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        1. Josiah Stevenson  🌷  🌐‏ @josiahstevenson Feb 13
          Replying to @arthur_affect @pinguinus and

          I don't know about "evil censorship" but seems likely to do more harm than good

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        1. Carrie Laben‏ @pinguinus Feb 13
          Replying to @arthur_affect @josiahstevenson and

          Seems like a barn door that the horse is well out of, but the ethical issue is definitely a complex one, and deserving of better than outrage blogging.

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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 13
          Replying to @arthur_affect @pinguinus and

          At the very least can we acknowledge the "We tried to create a scientific definition of ethnicity and then tell you what yours is!" angle has no possible medical benefit to anyone, can only cause social harm, and yet is there because it's obviously what consumers care about

          1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. Carrie Laben‏ @pinguinus Feb 13
          Replying to @arthur_affect @josiahstevenson and

          Oh yeah, that part's silly at best and gross at most times.

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        2. Hoydenne‏ @iridienne Feb 13
          Replying to @arthur_affect @pinguinus and

          Yeah, i mean, on the one hand there are absolutely things it would probably be better to breed out of the genome if we can (and Huntington's is top of the fucking list, frankly), but there are so few of them compared to SO MANY potential harms???

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. Hoydenne‏ @iridienne Feb 13
          Replying to @iridienne @arthur_affect and

          (Huntington's Chorea is a genuine fucking monster of a genetic disorder.)

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        2. Alon (they/them)‏ @alon_levy Feb 14
          Replying to @arthur_affect @pinguinus and

          Yeah - of note, in China they IIRC banned doctors from telling parents the sex of the child in utero, to avoid sex-selective abortion.

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        3. Alon (they/them)‏ @alon_levy Feb 14
          Replying to @alon_levy @arthur_affect and

          (And when people who are fluent in PRC human rights abuses talk about PRC crimes they don't talk about this, because this isn't a crime.)

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