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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Especially with ancient China not being much of a dairy culture (lactose intolerance being much more common) compared to Europe or India And the original 牛 they kept were probably water buffalo (Bubalus bubalis) not Bos taurus It's a whole complicated thing

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    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Anyway the English translations seem to be trying to pick the more masculine word for the animal whenever possible, although I guess they picked "Ox" instead of "Bull" because "Bull" was TOO masculine

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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Like, ranchers only keep intact bulls around at all for stud purposes and no one wants to be thinking about that Then again, that's also generally the only reason people keep roosters around, but they had fewer good choices for how to translate "chicken"

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    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Anyway the zodiac sign really is just "cow", not "ox", "pig", not "boar", "chicken", not "rooster" What I find most interesting is 羊, "caprid", which we don't have a common word for in English

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    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      There are two famous kinds of domesticated caprid - sheep and goats And the problem is in our culture sheep and goats have almost exactly opposite cultural connotations Hell the Bible has a parable to that effect

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      So whether the translator picks "Sheep" or "Goat" as the name of the zodiac sign is this whole fraught thing, a typical Westerner will have very different reactions to either one I think you can safely call this the result of Christian religious influence

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Although, yes, there's plenty of other species the word 羊 applies to, like antelope, Ibex, musk ox, etc

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    8. mollydot‏ @mollydot Feb 12
      Replying to @arthur_affect

      There's a year I've seen translated as both rabbit and cat. Are they related words in Chinese?

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12
      Replying to @mollydot

      I wasn't aware of this until I looked it up right now but it's not a case of a related word It's because the Vietnamese zodiac straight up replaces the Rabbit sign from the Chinese zodiac with the Cat sign

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    10. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12
      Replying to @arthur_affect @mollydot

      I don't know why that is It's kind of fascinating because there probably is history here - there's a well known Chinese folktale for kids about how the Cat was supposed to be on the Zodiac but he missed his shot because he slept in

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      In 2018 Year of the Doggo let us remember the Chinese fable about how the cats don’t have a year because they can never get their fucking shit together
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        2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12
          Replying to @arthur_affect @mollydot

          Ah, okay, looking into this some more, some people do claim this IS because of the word -- it's a bilingual pun, an archaic word for "rabbit" in Chinese ("mao") sounds like the word for "cat" in Vietnamese ("mèo")

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        3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12
          Replying to @arthur_affect @mollydot

          Now I'm just thinking about the weird MCU thing where apparently raccoons from North America on Earth look just like the animal on Asgard that Thor refers to as "rabbits"

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