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    1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Anyway this is a whole thing because technically the distinction between an "ox" and other kinds of cattle is a matter of function and not biology - an ox is usually a castrated male (a steer) but all it means is that it's been trained to pull a plow and is for work, not food

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    2. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      An ox can technically be a cow or a bull too, in a pinch And in more ancient farming cultures that hadn't bred animals as extensively as in later years, the distinction between working animals and meat animals wasn't nearly so sharp

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    3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Especially with ancient China not being much of a dairy culture (lactose intolerance being much more common) compared to Europe or India And the original 牛 they kept were probably water buffalo (Bubalus bubalis) not Bos taurus It's a whole complicated thing

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    4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Anyway the English translations seem to be trying to pick the more masculine word for the animal whenever possible, although I guess they picked "Ox" instead of "Bull" because "Bull" was TOO masculine

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    5. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Like, ranchers only keep intact bulls around at all for stud purposes and no one wants to be thinking about that Then again, that's also generally the only reason people keep roosters around, but they had fewer good choices for how to translate "chicken"

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    6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Anyway the zodiac sign really is just "cow", not "ox", "pig", not "boar", "chicken", not "rooster" What I find most interesting is 羊, "caprid", which we don't have a common word for in English

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    7. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      There are two famous kinds of domesticated caprid - sheep and goats And the problem is in our culture sheep and goats have almost exactly opposite cultural connotations Hell the Bible has a parable to that effect

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    8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      So whether the translator picks "Sheep" or "Goat" as the name of the zodiac sign is this whole fraught thing, a typical Westerner will have very different reactions to either one I think you can safely call this the result of Christian religious influence

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    9. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12

      Although, yes, there's plenty of other species the word 羊 applies to, like antelope, Ibex, musk ox, etc

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    10. Garlax, The Weasel King‏ @TheWeaseKing Feb 12
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      Huh. Is rabbit just rabbit? Tiger just tiger? (Is there a good place to read about this?)

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      Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12
      Replying to @TheWeaseKing

      I mean yeah 兔 is technically leporids in general - rabbits and hares - but we loosely talk about both of those as "rabbits" in English too

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        1. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Feb 12
          Replying to @arthur_affect @TheWeaseKing

          虎 is pretty narrowly understood to mean just the immediate relatives of the tiger - the words for "lion", "jaguar", etc are different Because, well, big cats aren't very common animals and the tiger was the only one the ancient Chinese were directly familiar with

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