I was sleep deprived and angry at someone who just called me an American Imperialist for wanting to get a coding job instead of, I dunno, living off GoFundMes for the rest of my life, and I decided to do some dark snark.
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Again, if we're being outright literal about the Matrix, we're essentially looking at a Seraphite/WLF situation (and Morpheus and his crew are the Seraphites). Religious zealot terrorists against the somewhat conservative but not super complicit guards of modernity
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So in that scenario, Cypher is a spy who does a brutal thing in a war with no real good guys, but where if I was going to pick a side, I would pick the other one
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @sadmac7000
Yeah I agree that if you interpret the film painstakingly literally then Morpheus and the crew don't come off great. Like, they're seeking to destroy the system keeping all of humanity alive for the sake of philosophical authenticity
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Replying to @dulcedejae @BootlegGirl
And, of course, at the end of the third film, they find a solution that involves negotiating with that system rather than destroying it.
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I liked The Matrix Online portraying the two "extremist" factions as equally misguided (but understandably so given their trauma)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @sadmac7000 and
The Cypherites are never going to get the whole population of Zion to just agree to peacefully plug back into the Matrix even if the Machines actually put that option on the table
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Replying to @arthur_affect @sadmac7000 and
But the E Pluribus Neo faction clinging to the original goal of collapsing the Matrix completely - which most fans of the movies still thought of as the obvious heroic stance - is also obviously genocidal madness Everyone would just die
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I dunno I’m not convinced “everyone just dying” is an outcome to be so easily dismissed when the alternative seems to be unavoidable arbitrary suffering mixed with some people having an okay time.
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"By choosing to transition and therefore losing her overwhelming rage at society, has Sarah Edmonton betrayed humanity Discuss"
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Replying to @arthur_affect
I don’t think personally improving your circumstances negates the drive to improve society but I would argue that if individual improvements are all that society will allow then maybe it shouldn’t exist in the first place. (sorry if this wasn’t ur point I’m not trying to derail)
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