That Wanda is both a victim and villain is the intended takeaway, here. She’s torturing people so that she has her own fictive RP world to live in.
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Replying to @DB_Grimwalker
Yes, but additionally, her fictive RP world sucks and isn't how everyone would cope even if they were doing something equally horrible
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
I don’t think there’s any insistence that anyone except her ought to grieve this way. She has reality altering powers and at some point decided “fuck it why shouldn’t I? This is a thing I can do.” Sort of like a showerthought that’s been stuck in my head...
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Replying to @DB_Grimwalker
Yeah but it's telling that her coping resembles the coping of a large group of real online people who really frustrate me a lot, and that we're getting a semi-sympathetic exploration of that mindset
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Replying to @BootlegGirl
The best villains are semi-sympathetic or at least relatable on some level. I think semi sympathetic is overstating it though. Pretty much everyone concerned is horrified and outraged by what she’s doing. Rambeau isn’t trying to be her friend, she’s in Hostage Negotiator mode.
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Replying to @DB_Grimwalker @BootlegGirl
In hostage negotiations you avoid inflicting moral judgment on the subject—you have to build a rapport and sympathy so the situation can be ended without bloodshed. Rambeau knows this is Not Okay, she’s just handling a dangerous unstable individual with kid gloves.
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Replying to @DB_Grimwalker @BootlegGirl
I suspect the show is going to have to come to some conclusions ™ about levels of responsibility and self-awareness and so on. I think the character's status in their franchise probably demands a sympathetic takeaway...the moral take away will be in the metaphysical details.
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Actually I think a separate issue is that pretty often speculative fiction will fall back on counterfactual metaphysics to obscure these kinds of ethical issues. OTOH, done well, a speculative fiction angle can add a lot to this kind of story.
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Replying to @MatthewVilter @BootlegGirl
I don't doubt that they'll eventually find a way to redeem her but I hope they don't cop out and say that it's just okay for her to have reversed death, tortured a town full of people, and created two persons ex nihilo.
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Replying to @DB_Grimwalker @BootlegGirl
On the subject of reversing death, it seems odd that Vision's living will would include "do not resurrect" when he know he was going for an experimental consciousness transfer procedure... He trusted them with the procedure I would think he'd want to give some room to maneuver.
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I think he suspected that if he actually died, it would become much more difficult to bring him back without fundamentally altering him in some way (it's not clear how much of his memory is non-volatile, as they say)
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Replying to @arthur_affect @MatthewVilter and
And the temptation to go ahead and make "improvements" would be much more powerful if he weren't alive and around to object Looking at what Wanda's done, it seems like a rational fear
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Replying to @arthur_affect @MatthewVilter and
I mean, Vision is a fork of a horrible murderous genocidal AI, who turned out to be a good guy for seemingly random reasons due to his unique starting parameters I think it makes sense for him to urge caution here
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