Should you get the vaccine if you’re eligible but you feel you aren’t high-risk enough? Medical ethicists unequivocally told me yes, citing a number of reasons. My latest for @nytimes:https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/21/opinion/covid-vaccine-ethics.html?referringSource=articleShare …
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Replying to @lindy2350 @nytimes
Find it hard to believe all medical ethicists agree with this illogical argument. Given the lack of supply and inadequate system for getting vaccinated, there is a logic to people who don’t have to go out, waiting until more people who have to go out to work get the shot.
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Replying to @zacphotos @nytimes
Your logic would make perfect sense if turning down a vaccine meant it went to someone higher risk. The problem is, we are discovering that that is not what happens. More evidence that the system is a mess, yes. But that we also can't fix it ourselves.
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The antidote to a messy system is to abandon your values and grab everything you can? This sad, selfish take ignores the best parts of what humanity, society, and community can offer us.
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Replying to @belmundo9 @lindy2350 and
You completely ignored what she just said. Mass vaccination efforts don’t run at 100% efficiency so doses get trashed a lot. Therefore in this scenario the healthier of two people getting the dose is better than neither getting it. Nothing nefarious.
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Replying to @timbandy7 @lindy2350 and
You completely ignored what both of us just said. Nobody is looking to waste vaccine. Moyer’s glib contortions authorize selfishness. I’m saying the values we tout on good days should apply on bad days too.
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Replying to @belmundo9 @timbandy7
No, you don't understand the situation here at all, and the urge to play the "selfishness" vs. "selflessness" card has caused *incredible harm* in people's understanding of the pandemic In a pandemic, *anyone* avoiding infection is good for *everyone*
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No matter who you are, if you get infected, you make the entire population less safe, and the longer you avoid infection, the safer the entire population is That's the basic way infectious disease works, and people's romanticized moral intuitions run counter to this harmfully
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You get inane machismo like people saying "I'm happy to take the risk to get infected so I can do my job and earn a living", which is total nonsense -- you CANNOT personally "take the risk", any risk you take gets transmitted to the population as a whole
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Same with the macho denialists shaming people for taking extra precautions -- "Oh, you're so selfishly scared for your own skin you're hiding in a basement for a year" No, I'm not *selfishly* scared, because if I get infected I INCREASE THE RISK LEVEL FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD
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Everyone's collective goal re: the vaccine should be to get as many total people vaccinated in as short a time as possible, period Which means that if you have a dose of vaccine within reach, you should get the person vaccinated you have the most power to get vaccinated -- you
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How dare you selfishly make sure your own oxygen mask is in place before assisting others... I mean yes it's the way to ultimately do the most good but think of the optics! /s
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