So a thing that is genuinely bugging me about Hades is the decision to refer to Hades as hell in places.
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Replying to @ftmshepard
Portions of the New Testament that refer to Hell are just translating "Hades" though (The other references are referring to "the trash" essentially. Extremely misleading millenia long translation. Like Jesus is going to "toss sinners in the fire" bc *they burned trash*)
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Replying to @BootlegGirl @ftmshepard
Yeah. And tbf, I refer to all other places I am as 'hell' so I wouldn't be surprised if Zagreus did the same.
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Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl
Fair. How does he know what hell as in tortuous bad place is, though? Did a mid century monk come visiting? He doesn't even know most of Greek mythology.
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Replying to @ftmshepard @BootlegGirl
I assume they're speaking Greek and the translation is for our benefit?
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Replying to @mssilverstein @BootlegGirl
Possibly, that still doesn't explain why he has the concept. He'd be just saying tartarus then. Again, this is just one small nitpick, im not going to be annoyed that they've forgotten Ares's cowardice.
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Replying to @ftmshepard @BootlegGirl
Oh yeah. It's definitely a nitpick, but it's a fun one, so it's fun to try to rationalize it. Your point is well-taken.
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All these myths are malleable Like yeah the Iliad slams Ares for being a lil fuckboi but not everyone agreed - the Spartans thought he was badass, and the Romans, who equated Mars with Ares, never stopped having Mars as one of their chief gods they named everything after
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Replying to @arthur_affect @mssilverstein and
I mean that’s Wes’s field but it’s not going to stop me being irked when modern Greek myth adaptations do the hell thing because I know what that indexes for their audience even if it kind of works in a vacuum
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @arthur_affect and
Like there’s way more cultural weight to Christian defaults including “hell bad, cackling Satans go brrr” and “religion is immutable until proven otherwise” unconsciously than there is for most people consciously to “I can maybe justify this without going ‘hm yep Hades evil’”
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I think it's kind of interesting that Hadestown has the line "You either get to hell or to Hadestown/Ain't no difference anymore!" Like... so in this universe there WAS, at some point, a difference?
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Yeah, see, that’s what it takes to mollify me tbh
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Replying to @chrysopoetics @arthur_affect and
Point where I fell for the show was that I said something offhand about how obviously things were in an absolute state because Hades as a god is a metonym for his domain and it’d been affected by fossil fuels exploitation, and then that was… actually… in-show correct
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