whoa...this is impressively nonsensical drivel, though.https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1340824411100901376 …
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like, the idea that aliens are going to be (a) intelligent (b) more advanced than us and (c) FIT INTO OUR NOTIONS OF HISTORICAL PROGRESSION IN SOME SORT OF STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY
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like, that's right into full kookdom.
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I mean, I am ready to praise our Oankali overlords, but...
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"aliens absolutely exist" okay that's kind of goofy but if you want... "aliens will be the apotheosis of Communism!" [backs away slowly]
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I mean, where are you reading "apotheosis of Communism" in his tweet? are there more tweets? Because if not, this is just as mendacious a reading as people often have of your tweets, and it's no better a look on you than on them.
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Yeah, I mean, I think people are reading this as some kind of new soviet cosmism for twitter and it's more along the line of Kardashev's scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale#:~:text=Current%20status%20of%20human%20civilization,-Total%20World%2C%20Annual&text=Physicist%20and%20futurist%20Michio%20Kaku,100%2C000%20to%20a%20million%20years ….
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My issue is the idea that because the aliens are more "advanced" than we are that means their politics and social organization must be *better* than ours is
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I think it's implausible that aliens above us on the Kardashev scale would be communists, anarchists, neoliberal capitalists, or feudal monarchists But I don't think any one of these is actually that much more implausible than the other
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Though I think feudal monarchism isn't likely because historically ith hasn't withstood trade or gunpowder, personally
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I don't think it's plausible that something that functions like what we call an "interstellar civilization" would have anything in it that resembles "people" at all
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Anyway, a materialist argument that communism is the highest stage of human organization, to which I am, I'd say, pretty sympathetic, is not an argument for any non-human whose material conditions we do not know.
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Sure! I just don't think that's an argument that Robinson is making here! Not even implicitly! People are reading it into his tweet because they know something about his ideology, but i don't actually think it's WARRANTED by the tweet?
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