"Herd immunity" is a term used to discuss public policy regarding vaccination and should have NEVER been used in any other context
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As far as whether this vaccine provides sterilizing immunity, we don't know because they didn't specifically test for it - testing for real-life transmissibility of the virus is much more difficult than testing whether you have disease symptoms and is not the priority
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But the basic way this vaccine works means that in order to keep you from getting COVID-19 the vaccine *must* cause the body to produce neutralizing antibodies Logically it probably does reduce transmissibility, we just don't know by how much and whether it gets down to zero
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Anyway, you are flat out incorrect about the public policy situation in NZ NZ's population is seeing a huge economic upswing as they head into Christmas *without* any lockdowns, because they've gotten down to zero cases without the use of a vaccine
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The thing that's "locked down" in NZ is letting people from *other* countries into their borders, thanks to the massive public policy failures in the rest of the world
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This is obviously not ideal, since they do have a fair amount of tourism income, but the overall situation is obviously worse for the US and UK economies - a LOT worse - than it is for them
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The idea that lockdown is a permanent no-win scenario that you can't get out of until you achieve "herd immunity" is, of course, mindless defeatism from idiots who don't know the basic way an infectious disease works
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If we could lock down the whole world for 14 days the virus would vanish forever That's how a virus works, that's its basic weakness - it's not really alive, it can only grow inside a human body, and it can only do so for so long before it needs to jump elsewhere
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The collective result of the actions of schmucks like this guy has been too kill so many people. They’re too dumb to even realize they shouldn’t appear in public anymore.
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The ridiculous sour grapes here He doesn't even know that the last NZ lockdown ended in October Taiwan just had a huge 10,000-person two-day rave in November to celebrate 200 days with zero endogenous cases
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It's like the "This is fine" dog refusing to do anything about his house being on fire because "You know what firefighting does? It just gets everything wet, and then when there's all this dirty gross water everywhere you turn it off and there's still a fire!"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @amazingprizzini and
"Well... no, if you keep on spraying the water eventually the whole fire goes out" "That's just what they want you to think! Look, the only way to actually stop a fire is to let it keep burning until everything flammable is burnt That's nature's way"
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Replying to @arthur_affect @amazingprizzini and
"What about your friend Bob the Cat Didn't he have a fire in his kitchen that he immediately sprayed with a fire extinguisher" "Yeah and now his house is completely covered in disgusting foam, and the moment he stops spraying foam the fire will spring back to life anyway"
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